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Help Needed - Donegal and the Motherwell's

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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Oct 2013 14:35

Christopher...Hope you realise you have destroyed my weekend..!

I thought you must have sorted these "families" by now....

Didnt realise how much had been found until I looked back over all the postings...sleepless nights again...

Have had a look around for info.on your other thread and all the family seems to have settled in Sonamo.....however forgot about James Motherwell (Philly) and had a root around....found this....

Name: Sarah Motherwell
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 18 Feb 1864
Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 26
Birth Year (Estimated): 1838
Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
She died of Typhoid Fever place of Death Lafyette

Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Oct 2013 15:14

a lot has happened since we last interacted - including a trip to donegal and visiting the

The James Risk thing is perhaps a second cousin.

the problem with the above girl is that age might be about right - but i have a Sarah Motherwell (with james as the father...) marrying William robinson. I am on their trail now and may have found someone with a tree with hre in (last couple of days......

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Oct 2013 15:16

And this is the posting from a lady in Donegal who may be linked but is into this kinda thing - forget the Australian thing - she mapped it out on a gno file - but as i am on a mac can't open it


Hi Chris,

I had a look at all the Australian records you sent me. These appear to be connected with the Sligo Motherwells which I don't think are closely related to the family you are researching. Perhaps a few generations earlier? But aren't the Australian records great?

I am attaching the Motherwell family tree that I did up, for you to have a look at.
The programme I use for recording is Genopro. You can download it free from here http://www.genopro.com/free/ If you click on the archive link at the bottom of this page and download 1.70 which is 2000, you should be able to open my attachment. However, it only will open on a PC with Windows, not Apple. If you double click on some of the names on the tree, I have added the source of information or little notes. Let me know if you have any problems with it as I can send you a view only option.

I have added all the early records I could get to see if I could make any sense of it all. Please note that the family order is only my opinion. I have no hard and fast evidence to suggest this is accurate but I will explain my reasoning behind it.

Firstly I believe William's wife, Catherine must have been Caldwell and probably a daughter of Thomas Caldwell of Garshuey who died 1800. The name Caldwell features a lot in the children and grandchildren, as does the name Thomas.

Going with the naming theory, that the first son and daughter were usually named after the father's parents and the second son and daughter after the mother's parents, I think this is pretty much followed by this family.

I believe that William, Thomas, James, Margaret, John and Caldwell are all children of William and Catherine. In this land record http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/raphoefreeholders.htm it states that William, James, John and Caldwell were all residing in Leitrim.

Re James, I think when his uncle James of Tonagh died, James (2nd) was in line for taking over this farm as his older brother William was probably to get Leitrim, the next brother, Thomas had died and so this left James to get Tonagh. John got Garshuey and Caldwell got Monglass.

Re naming of James's children, the first 3 we believe were girls and as we don't know what Elizabeth Dowd's mother's name was, we can only guess there was a Susan somewhere in the Dowds family? It is interesting though that he named his son William Alexander, another reason to believe he was a son of William of Leitrim. I also think there was probably other siblings who may have died.

This then brings me to James Caldwell Risk. I think he must be a descendant of James (1st) Motherwell and Mary Caldwell of Tonagh. There is no Catherine in his family and Mary and Ann feature high in the naming list.

The William Motherwell to the left on his own, I think may be William son of William and Catherine but I'm not sure. This is why I left him on his own with a possible link to the other William (arrow).

Anyway, that's my theory on it to date. I will probably change my mind on it sometime again. You will also probably have your own theory on it and I would welcome your thoughts.I will add the rest of the family soon as I think it may give us and indication which family members we can follow up, especially Caldwell's family.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Oct 2013 16:09

Christopher I had no more success than you opening the file...
It opens but there is just a blank page of squares.....

Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Oct 2013 19:12

it is a gno file that needs the software - and it doesn't work on a mac - and we are an apple house now

:-D :-D :-D

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Oct 2013 20:24

As she says it should open with Windows...???

Christopher

Christopher Report 27 Oct 2013 08:21

No - you have to download the programme