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christine Report 24 Sep 2012 18:38

i am new to this site and hope that some one would be kind enough to help find my grandparents marriage and births
facts i know are my mothers dob is 7th june 1920 name was voilet alice yoxall /yaxall born in holborn area london
her mother maiden name was baitrum and her father is named on her marriage cert as alfred george yoxall ,i cannot find a marriage for a yoxall /baitrum and hope that someone would be able to help me
any help would be gratefully appreciated
thankyou in anticipation


PollyPoppet Report 24 Sep 2012 18:42

Birth Record
Name Violet A Yoxall
Year of Registration 1920
Quarter of Registration
Registration District Holborn
Registration County London
Mother's maiden name Baitrum
Volume Number 1B
Volume Page 1413

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 18:43

It may be that her mum was married before as the birth wasnt that long after WW1


PricklyHolly Report 24 Sep 2012 18:46

Welcome to the boards Christine.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 18:47

I would recommend getting mums birth cert for her mums name.


Astra Report 24 Sep 2012 18:48

Possible birth

Name: YOXALL, Alfred George
Registration district: Ulverston County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911
Q3Volume no:8EPage no:821


christine Report 24 Sep 2012 18:48

thankyou so much for al lthe help with violet ' much appreciated.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 18:49

did the family move from London?

Name: Alfred G Yoxall
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1961
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 153


PollyPoppet Report 24 Sep 2012 18:51

does it give her father occupation on marriage cert

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 18:57

Heres Alfred on the 1901 census

1901 census transcription details for: 9, Earl Street, Lancaster

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3991
Folio: 105
Page: 34
Reg. District: Lancaster
Sub District: Lancaster
Parish: Lancaster
Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: Skerton St Luke
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 9, Earl Street, Lancaster
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
YOXALL, Frank Head Married M 31 1870 Coachman (Not Domestic)
Tarbigge, Worcestershire
YOXALL, Margt Ann Wife Married F 40 1861
Ambleside, Westmorland
YOXALL, Joseph Son M 9 1892
Ambleside, Westmorland
YOXALL, Frank Son M 7 1894
Haverthwaite, Lancashire
YOXALL, Alfred George Son M 5 1896
Haverthwaite, Lancashire
YOXALL, Thos Hy Son M 3 1898
Lancaster, Lancashire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 19:07

looks like Violet had a sister
Births Dec 1921
Yoxall Emily G Baitrum Shoreditch 1c 96

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2012 19:10

Just speculation

Births Sep 1899
Baitrum Alice Shoreditch 1c 76


PricklyHolly Report 24 Sep 2012 19:46

1911 England Census
about Joseph Yoxall
Name: Joseph Yoxall
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Windermere, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Earl St Lancaster
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Oil Cloth Worker
Registration district: Lancaster
Registration District Number: 479
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 25550
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Yoxall 40 Coachman (Domestic)
Margret Yoxall 48
Joseph Yoxall 19 Oil cloth Worker
Frank Yoxall 17 Errand Boy
Alfred George Yoxall 15 Labourer
Thomas Henry Yoxall 13
Ruth Sushannah Yoxall 9
(5 children born and living)

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 24 Sep 2012 21:43

There is this marriage in the right area for the births listed above. Bride's name at birth is written as Baitrum and on her marriage cert as Bartrum. BUT the groom's name is Edward not Alfred George........

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)

>>>Bartrum Florence A Yoxall Shoreditch 1c 169
Blacketer Susan Hayman Shoreditch 1c 169
Hayman Henry Blacketer Shoreditch 1c 169
>>>Yoxall Edward Bartrum Shoreditch 1c 169

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Florence Alice Baitrum
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Jun 1895
Father's Name: Albert George Baitrum ......Sawyer
Mother's Name: Eliza Estha Baitrum
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St Saviour
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Florence Alice Bartrum
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 24
Spouse Name: Edward Yoxall .....French Polisher
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1920 ....year is 1919 on image
Parish: Shoreditch St Anne
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Albert Bartrum....Sawyer
Spouse Father Name: Edward Yokall.....News vendor
Register Type: Parish Register

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 24 Sep 2012 22:30

What is Violet's address on her marriage cert?

Edward & Florence Alice Yoxall are living at 35 Newton Grove, Hackney in 1939.


christine Report 25 Sep 2012 13:30

please help on marriage.cannot find .
between yoxall/baitrum
alfred george yoxall was a french polisher on violet alice marriage cert and home address,
81 crondall st ,shoreditch.
i would be gratefull if any of you could find out more.
thankyou for all your help


lancashireAnn Report 25 Sep 2012 15:57

is this any use to you?

Baptisms: 20 Feb 1898 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Thomas Henry Yoxhall - Child of Frank Yoxhall & Margaret Ann
Born: 9 Dec 1897
Abode: Fairfield Cottage, Lancaster
Occupation: Coachman
Baptised by: W. Bonsey, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1894 - 1900, Page 90, Entry 719
Source: LDS Film 1526200


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
YOXALL Thomas Henry Lancaster Preston ROBINSON LAN/90/36


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 25 Sep 2012 16:26

This may be of at 43 Crondall Street. She marries William Jones in 1912

Name: Sarah Baitrum
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Oxton
Civil parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 43 Crondall St, Hoxton N
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Shoreditch
Registration District Number: 16
Sub-registration district: Shoreditch South
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 1337
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Baitrum 19
Sarah Baitrum 21
William Jones 19


lancashireAnn Report 25 Sep 2012 16:26

probate for the Alfred George who died in 1961

of 27 Manor Drive Manchester d 22 sep 1961. Administration to Thomas Henry Yoxall mattress maker


christine Report 25 Sep 2012 16:34

thankyou for all the information you havve sent to me on help on marriage,to polly poppet,prickly holly,lancaster ann ,christina lancashire ,shirley,astra.thankyou for all for your research and time .christine