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Alfred and Albert Jackson - twins born around 1920

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Carole

Carole Report 30 Oct 2012 18:34

Does anyone have information on these two brothers? Albert was married to Florence who ran a stall on Ashton Indoor market in the fifties and sixties. Alfred was my father but I never really knew him. You might be ralated to him or Albert and it would be lovely to get in touch.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Oct 2012 18:47

Hi Carole

Where were they born?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Oct 2012 18:50

Use "Search" above and then click on "Search All Trees" from the drop down menu to find out if any other members have these people in their trees.

If you find any connections, you can send a message to the tree owners.

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:14

Ashton Indoor MArket - Greater Manchester??
Civil Registration event: Marriage
???
MarriageFinder: Albert Jackson married Florence Wood
Name: JACKSON, Albert
Registration district: Ashton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1953
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Wood
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 171

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:31

???? Births Sep 1927

Albert Jackson mmn Cook Wigan 8c 17

Alfred Jackson mmn Cook Wigan 8c 17

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Oct 2012 19:35

Stuart - that looks good - I wasn't happy about a 1953 marriage!!

So Carole....do you think this is them? What's your mum's name??

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:37

A sibling??
Birth Dec 1924
Robert Jackson mmn Cook Wigan 8c 13

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:40

Hey Jude - were you thinking Albert would have been a bit old to marry in 1953 if born 1920 ish?

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Oct 2012 19:46

Yes and no...my parents - born 1925/1926 respectively married 1951 and had me their first and only in 1957. My mum was 32. And that was odd in those days.

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:51

Not seeing an obvious Jackson/Cook marriage

GRMarilyn

GRMarilyn Report 30 Oct 2012 20:09

This must be the parents .....

Marriage.

Lydia COOKE
Robert JACKSON
1921 Wigan sept qrt

Marilyn ....

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 20:21

Thanks GR Marilyn - I didn't have the variant/soundex on!!
???
1911 census transcription details for: 4 Woodfield Street New Springs Near Wigan

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22964 RG78PN1344 RD458 SD2 ED4 SN229
Reg. District: Wigan
Sub District: Aspull
Parish: Aspull
Enum. District: 4
Address: 4 Woodfield Street New Springs Near Wigan
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
COOK, Enoch Jas Head Married M 35 1876 Coal Miner Deputy Or Fireman Lancashire Aspull
COOK, Mary Ellen Wife Married 11 years F 32 1879 Lancashire Aspull
COOK, Jane Daughter F 10 1901 Lancashire Aspull
COOK, Lydia Daughter F 9 1902 Lancashire Aspull
COOK, James Son M 6 1905 Lancashire Aspull
COOK, John Son M 1 1910 Lancashire Aspull
HOUGH, Henry Boarder Single M 39 1872 Under-Manager Coal Mine Lancashire Blackrod
HOUGH, Harved Boarder Single M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewer Lancashire Aspull

5 children born, 4 still living

Stuart

Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 20:31

There are 3 Robert Jacksons born around the same time as Lydia (and another 2 who are older) in Wigan 1911 census, but this one could be a contender as living in Aspull too
???
1911 census transcription details for: 8 Moor Street Aspull Near Wigan

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22963 RG78PN1344 RD458 SD2 ED3 SN129
Reg. District: Wigan
Sub District: Aspull
Parish: Aspull
Enum. District: 3
Address: 8 Moor Street Aspull Near Wigan
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JACKSON, Thomas Head Married M 40 1871 Colliery Weighman Surface Lancashire Aspull
JACKSON, Sarah Ann Wife Married18 years F 41 1870 Lancashire Aspull
JACKSON, James Son Single M 15 1896 Colliery Rope Hand Underground Lancashire Aspull
JACKSON, Ethel Daughter F 12 1899 Lancashire Aspull
JACKSON, Robert Son M 10 1901 Lancashire Aspull

5 children born alive, 3 still living

Reggie

Reggie Report 30 Oct 2012 22:12

Carole

You should try researching them yourself..... look for the births, at least.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Why do think they were twins?

Carole

Carole Report 31 Oct 2012 14:28

Dear all,
Thank you for your messages. I did not know my father and my mother never talked about him. I have been told that my father (Alfred Jackson) had a twin brother called Albert who married a lady called Florence. I did meet Aunty Flo a couple of times when she had the indoor market stall in Ashton-under-lyne. I have tried researching births but cannot find an Albert and an Alfred on the same sheet with the same district and the same mother's maiden name. Stuart's suggested marriage looks like a good match. I don't know exactly when they were born but my mother was born in 1923 and I made the assumption that he may have been a little older than her.

Reggie

Reggie Report 31 Oct 2012 15:36

You've been given birth records which may fit................

I copy..........


Stuart Report 30 Oct 2012 19:31
???? Births Sep 1927

Albert Jackson mmn Cook Wigan 8c 17

Alfred Jackson mmn Cook Wigan 8c 17

You do need to read all the replies when you ask for help

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Reggie

Reggie Report 31 Oct 2012 15:39

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Albert Jackson
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1927
Date of Registration: Jul 1989
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Tameside
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 1489
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Alfred Jackson
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1927
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Tameside
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 39
Page: 1534

mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Nov 2012 04:33

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1927
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
JACKSON Albert Aspull Wigan & Leigh COOK ASPL/74/369
JACKSON Alfred Aspull Wigan & Leigh COOK ASPL/74/370

so the births are actually rego'ed with successive entry #s (as one would expect if they be twins, and Albert is probably the elder twin).

mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Nov 2012 04:40

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1921
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JACKSON Robert COOKE Lydia St. Elizabeth, Aspull Wigan & Leigh C10/3/37

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Nov 2012 08:22

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1313406