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THRASHER & JEZARD & COURTENAY FAMILY 2 OF 2

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Lorraine Karen

Lorraine Karen Report 2 Nov 2012 20:02

We are trying to trace Jezard family members whose ancestors are:
Father - George Jezard (Robert Thrasher father or John Jezard father)
Mother - May Jezard
Daughter - Violet Alice Louise Jezard born 1890 Kensington, baptised 1896 Kensington - birth ordered
George, May and Violet lived at 133 Finborough Road, Kensington on Violet's 1896 baptism records
Violet Gezard (Jezard) boarded at Westcliff College For Girls, 78 Hamlet Court Road, Prittlewell, Southend in 1901 census
Horace Courtenay boarded at Westcliff College For Girls, 78 Hamlet Court Road, Prittlewell, Southend in 1901 census

Father - John Jezard
Mother - Priscilla May Jezard birth 1837, died 1900 Strand London
Son - Husband To Ellen Jezard
Daughter-In-Law - Ellen Jezard
Priscilla lived at 81 Archel Road Fulham in 1894 electroral register
Priscilla lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington in 1897 electoral register
Priscilla lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington in 1898 electoral register
Priscilla lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington in 1899 electoral register
Priscilla lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington in 1900 electoral register
Priscilla and Ellen lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington on Priscilla's death certificate in 1900
John lived at 133 Finborough Road Kensington as stated on Priscilla's death certificate in 1900

We are trying to trace Thresher/Thrasher/Atkins family members whose ancestors are:
Father - Percy Frederick Thresher, birth 1869 Brixton (Percy's birth name is Atkins)
Mother - Louisa Thresher, birth 1874 Holborn (Louisa's birth name is Thrasher) - order birth (is Louisa daughter of Robert Thrasher)
Son - Horace Thresher born 1893 Fulham (Horace's birth name is Thrasher and birth also listed as 1915), Horace baptised in 1896 - order birth
Percy, Louisa and Horace are living at 133 Finborough Road Kensington as recorded in Horace's baptism records in 1896
Percy and Louisa get married in 1905 as Percy Atkins and Louisa Thrasher - order wedding
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1906 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1907 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1908 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1909 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1910 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1911 electoral register as Thresher
Percy and Louisa are living at 12a Inglethorpe Street Fulham in the 1911 census as Atkins
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1912 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1913 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1914 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1915 electoral register as Thresher
Percy is living at 12a Inglethorpe Street, Fulham in the 1918 electoral register as Thrasher
Horace Thresher/Thrasher/Atkins is not living with Percy and Louisa in the 1911 census. Percy and Louisa also state they they have no children and that they have lost no children (and that is true of that marriage as the birth and baptism took place before their marriage in 1905). However, there is a baptism for Horace Thresher and a birth register for Horace Thrasher but no death for Horace Thresher/Thrasher and no baptism or birth record for Horace Courtenay and a death for Horace Courtenay in 1959. There is an old family rumour that Horace Courtenay is the illegitimate son of an Earl - are Horace Thrasher/Thresher and Horace Courtenay the same baby? Kensington Register Office has checked their records and there is no trace of Horace Courtenay's birth register and they believe also he is the same baby

We are trying to trace Thrasher family members whose ancestors are:
Father - Order Louisa's birth (daughter of Robert Thrasher?)
Mother - Order Louisa's birth (daughter of Priscilla Thrasher)
Daughter - Louisa Thrasher birth 1874 Holborn
Louisa is living in a boarding school at 2 Market Mews Chelsea in 1881 census
Louisa is living as a servant in 15 Dorset Mansions Fulham in 1901 census
Albert Court and Ruby Court (Ruth Jezard & Ruth Thrasher) are living at 19 Dorset Mansions Fulham in the 1901 census

We are trying to trace Atkins/Carlton family members whose ancestors are:
Father - George Atkins born 1838 Lambeth
Mother - Maria Atkins (Carlton) born 1837 Hammersmith
Son - Percy Atkins born 1869 Brixton
Percy is living at Cowley Road in 1871 census
Percy is living at 45 Barnwell Road in 1881 census
Percy is living at 3 Sinclair Road in the 1891 census
Percy is living at 150 Finborough Road in 1901 census

We are trying to trace Shepherd family members whose ancestors are:
Father - Thomas G Shepherd 1844 England
Mother - Agnes Shepherd born 1838 Scotland
Daughter - Agnes C G H Shepherd born 1872 Scotland
Daughter - Elizabeth Shepherd born 1883 Whittington Shropshire
Son - Joseph H Shepherd 1876 Whittington Shropshire
Horace Courtenay boarded at the Westcliff College For Girls boarding school in Prittlewell, Southend that the Shepherd family ran in the 1901 census
Violet Gezard (Jezard) boarded at the Westcliff College For Girls boarding school in Prittlewell, Southend that the Shepherd family ran in the 1901 census

We are trying to trace the following family members whose ancestors attended Westcliff College For Girls, Prittlewell, Southend:
Margaret Calderbank, Hutton, 1886
Constance Ward, Tottenham, 1887
Maud Cardwell, St Lawrence 1886
Dorothy Roulston, Hensford, 1887
Constance Roulston, Derby, 1888
Louise Heerst, Crowle, 1884
Kate Chambers, Rendham, 1885
Elizabeth Fisher, Howick, 1885
Mary Fisher, Howick, 1887
All girls are boarding at Westcliff College For Girls in the 1901 census

We are trying to trace the following family member whose ancestor:
Was servant at Westcliff College For Girls, Prittlewell, Southend in 1901 census
Florence Valentine, Benfleet, 1885

We are trying to trace unknown family members whose ancestors:
Studied or worked at Latymer Upper School in Kew from 1906 to 1910

We are trying to trace Uhthoff/Brookes family members whose ancestors are:
Father - Enrique Uhthoff
Mother - Annie Louisa Uhthoff (maiden name Brookes) born 1878 Bow
Son - Claude Henry Uhthoff born 1897 Kensington
Enrique, Annie Louisa and Claude are living at 133 Finborough Road Kensington where several members of the Jezard family and Thresher family are also living (Mr Brookes is a witness to Ruth Jezard/Ruth Thrasher's/Ruby Court and Albert Edward Court's wedding)

Thank you for your help and we hope that we can find more information about our ancestors and be able to find any living relatives.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Nov 2012 20:33

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1313541

Elaine, please remove your address, email and phone number.

It's impossible for us to follow so much info in one post and also spread over two threads:

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 2 Nov 2012 20:50

This is also on FLR

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2012 20:52

Unfortunately I agree with MarieCeleste.
So I am confused.
This is Violet's birth, surely, so you can get her Mother's maiden name??
Violet Alice L Jezard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 146

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2012 21:23

How have you arrived at the Thresher family?
The baptism of Herbert was on the same day as Violet's. but what else makes them relevant?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Nov 2012 21:31

this Uhtoff hails from Spain

Henry R Uhthoff
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1810 Spain
census: 1881 Paddington,? Middlesex,? England
child: Maria A Uhthoff


name: Henry R Uhthoff
age: 71
gender: Male
birth year: 1810
birthplace: Spain
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Widower
profession/occupation: Foreign Commission Merct
address: 29 Inverness Terr
census place: Paddington, Middlesex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341004
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 20 / 84
page number: 20

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Nov 2012 21:33

Gertrude Julia Clarissa Uhthoff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 May 1772 ST BOTOLPH BISHOPSGATE,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: Henry,? Mary Ann Cornelia



Joshua Andrew Uthoff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 31 Jul 1765 ST BOTOLPH BISHOPSGATE,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: Henry,? Mary Ann Cornelia



Marianne Uhthoff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 09 Aug 1763 ST BOTOLPH BISHOPSGATE,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: Henry,? Mary Ann Cornelia



Henry Uhthoff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Aug 1758 ALL HALLOWS STAINING,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: Henry Uhthoff,? Ann Cornelia



Catherine Elizabeth Uhthoff
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 13 May 1754
christening: 11 Jun 1754 ALL HALLOWS STAINING,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: Henry Uhthoff,? Ann Mary

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Nov 2012 21:35

you might find this interesting



name: Ludolph Christian Uhthoff
gender: Male
birth: 19 November 1776
Bremen
death: 29 October 1853
Cadiz, Spain
AFN: 2H76-56Q

Parents
father: Helmerich Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-K87 )
mother: Maria Friederike Dorothea Stegmann (AFN: 2H76-KL9 )

Marriages (1)
spouse: Joaquina de Noéli y Navarro (AFN: 2H76-5GD )
marriage: 2 October 1805
Cadiz
Hide children (8)

child 1: Sophie Rosa Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-5PT )
gender: Female
BIRTH 8 June 1809
Cadiz
DEATH 30 June 1861
Cadiz

child 2: Amalia Maria Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-5K1 )
gender: Female
BIRTH 14 July 1806
Cadiz
DEATH 15 October 1883
London

child 3: Roman Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-5TN )
gender: Male
BIRTH 18 February 1812
Cadiz
DEATH 20 October 1845
Cadiz

child 4: Enrique (Henry) Roman Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-40B )
gender: Male
BIRTH 28 March 1807
Cadiz, Spain
DEATH 16 April 1884
London, England

child 5: Joaquina Louisa Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-64H )
gender: Female
BIRTH 29 August 1822
Cadiz
DEATH 6 June 1886
London

child 6: Andreas Georg Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-6FC )
gender: Male
BIRTH 22 April 1827
Cadiz
DEATH 1832
Cadiz

child 7: Carlos Fernando Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-5ZH )
gender: Male
BIRTH 13 January 1814
Cadiz, Spain
DEATH 29 June 1883
Cadiz, Spain

child 8: Federico Guillermo Uhthoff (AFN: 2H76-68B )
gender: Male
BIRTH 11 May 1825
Cadiz
DEATH 1 October 1888
Chiclana


Submitters (2)
submitter: juhthoff3172468
submitter: rwolff2700284

Notes
¦ludolph Christian was a merchant and the Prussian Consul in Cadiz. Ludolf Christian's mother writes in her account (the Stegmann Account, very loosely translated): Born 19 November 1776 in Bremen. He Gredel (sic)(who is so far not identified) and Andreas contracted smallpox. On 15 April he began religious instruction under Pastor Vogt. In May 1790 masserte er (Note by John Campbell Uhthoff: I cannot translate "masserte er"). He was confirmed on 3 March 1792. On 28 November 1792 he travelled with his uncle G.C. Uhthoff (this would be Georg Konrad Uhthoff) through Paris to Nantes, arriving there on 1 January 1793. He came back, God be thanked, during the most unsettled times, by ship through Hamburg the same year on 12 December. On 27 August 1795 he left here to ship with Captain Leumann to Cadiz - he sailed on 1 September at 12 o'clock noon and arrived on 8 October (1795) in good health and without having become seasick. For two years he (Ludolph?) had served the enterprise of Messrs Siling, Uhthoff, Linau & Company and had made himself so well liked that on the death of G.C. Uhthoff the partners made our son a fourth partner. In August 1800 our son had the epidemic sickness (smallpox, I assume). He had this murderous fever for seven days. He is, thank God, completely restored to health. This epidemic began in August and ended in November. On the 12th they held thanksgiving with a procession and the singing of a Tedeum. More than 10,000 people died in Cadiz alone.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Nov 2012 21:38

Horace Courtenay
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Earls Court London,? London
census: 1911 Kew,? Kew,? Surrey,? England


name: Horace Courtenay
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 16
birthplace: Earls Court London, London
record type: Household
registration district: Richmond
sub-district: Richmond
parish: Kew
county: Surrey

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Nov 2012 21:41


?
1896------ Oct/Dec,-Poplar London,

Horace Charles COURTNEY,

dont be mislead by POB on census.


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Nov 2012 13:11

you can reply on here - better than sending messages

Lorraine Karen

Lorraine Karen Report 3 Nov 2012 13:50

Thank you Ann
Just getting used to using this system - I'll copy over the message replies so that keeps the thread for everyone.
Kind regards
Lorraine

Sorry GR and everyone - taken my contact details off my postings - thank you.
Lorraine

patchem

patchem Report 3 Nov 2012 14:17

Where did Ruby Ruth Jezard and Albert Edward Court marry?
Thanks

Added:
OK, going as Edward not Albert;
Marriages Sep 1900
COURT Edward Albert Fulham 1a 536
Jezard Ruby Fulham 1a 536

Which records have her as Ruby Ruth?

Have you looked to see who else has any of these people in their trees on here?
That is the obvious way to start.

Ivy

Ivy Report 3 Nov 2012 15:54

Re Percy Thresher, on the electoral roll at Inglethorpe Street - there is this entry in 1911:

Name: Percy Atkins
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 12A Inglethorpe Street, Fulham Palace Road, Fulham, London S W
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 6
Estimated Marriage Year: 1905
Occupation: STOCK EXCHANGE CLERK
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 273
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Atkins 39
Louisa Atkins 33

Ivy

Ivy Report 3 Nov 2012 15:56

- this fits reasoanbly well with these marriage registrations:

Apr-May-Jun 1905
Fulham London
Percy Atkins
Claude Payne
Louisa Thrasher
Sarah Jane Veal


Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Nov 2012 16:44

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1313545

Be wary folks...........

Ivy

Ivy Report 3 Nov 2012 17:08

A possible 1901 census report for Percy Atkins (again on Finborough Road!)

Name: Percy Atkins
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Briston, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Occupation: theatrical business manager

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19

Household schedule number: 484
Piece: 37
Folio: 36
Page Number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Wilson 44
Emily Fletcher 47
Thirza Stanly 27
Percy Atkins 30
Jerome G Ostrom 70

Ivy

Ivy Report 3 Nov 2012 17:20

1891, Sinclair Road Hammersmith:

Name: Percy F Atkins
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 39
Folio: 166
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Rochester W Hart 39
Fanny H Hart 40
Nora M Hart 10
Conway J Hart 21
Henry R Hart 5
Surrey R Hart 35
Thomas B Peterkin 23
Percy F Atkins 20 private secretary
Humbert Ebam 30
August H Frankman 26
Charles S Mackie 52
Emily M Mackie 43
Julia G Sweknham 45
Lisa A Sweknham 19
Alice Mc Donnell 38
Lucy Storey 77
Charles G Lockhart 73

patchem

patchem Report 3 Nov 2012 17:23

Lorraine,
As your stated aim was to find the father of Horace Courtenay and as Reggie has shown he is illegitimate, could you confirm that this is now sorted.
Could you also confirm that you have tried to contact all members of genes who have common ancestors to those you are looking for, so that we do not spend time on information you already have?
Thank-you

Ivy

Ivy Report 3 Nov 2012 17:45

This may be the 1901 census for Louisa Thrasher:

Name: Louisa Thrasher
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 54
Folio: 42
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm H Webber 27
Louisa Thrasher 26
Sidney H Millwood 14