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Thanks everyone ... getting quite a bit of info here.

Gins - No, not my tree on Ancestry. I'm not the ALSTON. I'm researching for an old (80 yrs) family friend (known me since before I was born).

But I did notice that there are 3 trees on Ancestry who have the details wrong. They've assumed that it was the girl (Beryl born 1923) who drowned at Magnetic Island, when in fact it was Eric (born 1919). Perhaps I should tell them?

Yes, Frank and Hugh were brothers, and from what I've discovered the past couple of days, both families moved to Brisbane in 1949 and lived near the Ascot Racecourse. They were into racehorses.

Chris - thanks I hadn't been able to find when they came back from England. Only gone 5 months huh? Long time to take a 13 year old out of school !

Thanks all
Cheers
Robyn

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Name: John Donald Macansh Tooth
Birth: 03 Jul 1922 (3 Jul 1922)
Death: 28 Dec 1986
Marriage: 10 Apr 1947 - Ingham, Queensland, Australia
Parents: William Macansh Tooth, Doris Emily Row


Deaths only go up to 1980 at Ancestry

Following on from Anne


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: John Donald M & Beryl Frances Tooth - both Graziers
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1980
State: Queensland
District: Kennedy
Subdistrict: Muttaburra

John Donald Macanish (Engineer) & Beryl Frances Tooth
Residence: 1949 - Toombul, Lilley, Queensland

Pasted from above:
"Reports are that she married a John Donald TOOTH in 1944, but I can't find anything on that either."
"Married in Ingham, Queensland. But it looks like it was April 1946 now."

Confusion over Robyn...

Beryl Alston was still unmarried between 1944 and 1946

Beryl Frances Alston Married John Donald Tooth on Thurs 10 Apr 1947!

This is it:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/63015442?searchTerm=beryl%20tooth&searchLimits=l-decade=194

Anne

Yes Gins that's my REAL white wedding in 1981 :-)

Thanks Jude, I added when I realised it wasnt a son :-)

Is that you on the wedding photo..............sweet :-D

Hugh George was Frank's brother I think - glanced at death record and has same parents

Jude

Address: 64 Stevenson St
Alston Frank Newton - Grazier, Male 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul
Alston Kate Winifred Female 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul


Looks like it's Franks brother

Address: 132 Yabba St
Alston Hugh George - Grazier, Male 1954 Queensland Lilley Toombul
Alston Mabel Finch


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Hugh George Alston
Spouse Name: Mabel Finch Brodie
Marriage Date: 19 Jan 1914
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1914
Registration number: 003689
Page Number: 382

There are loads of electoral rolls for Beryl and John Donald Macanish Tooth
Jude

(going back)

Name: Mr F N ALSTON
Date of departure: 23 October 1936
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Brisbane, Australia
Passenger destination: Brisbane, Australia
Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age)
Age: 52
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Grazier
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 23
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Miss B F ALSTON Page 7 of 23 (age 13)
Mrs K W ALSTON Page 7 of 23 (age 47)
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
OTRANTO
146025
L V James
Orient
Australia
11978
723

Chris :)

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Beryl Alston
Birth Date: abt 1923
Age: 13
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 29 May 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Strathaird
Search Ship Database: View the 'Strathaird' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162670

With: Frank & Kate, going to 3 Glebe St, Hove, Sussex


Is this your tree at Ancestry?


Alston
Mills and Rowntree Tree owner
Birth: 1923 - Australia
Death: 14 January 1927 (14 Jan 1927) - Queensland, Australia
Parents: Frank Newton Alston, Kate Winifred Garbutt

Would contact Cherilyn on above link, as posted earlier. Worth a try here...

Chris :)

Married in Ingham, Queensland. But it looks like it was April 1946 now.
But photos on Trove, still have her as Miss Beryl Alston 30 July 1946.
I'm still confused. :-S

Did she marry in Aus or the UK?

Ozi

Thanks Anne,
Yes, the paper got it wrong.
It was definitely Eric, aged 7. This was confirmed in a later article.

Would love something on the birth, and subsequent marriage of Beryl though.
Can't seem to find anything, other than she was 13 when she travelled with her parents, Frank and Kate, to England in 1936.

Reports are that she married a John Donald TOOTH in 1944, but I can't find anything on that either.

Back to the drawing board I guess.
Thanks everyone for your hard work. I certainly have more today than I had a couple of days ago. Well done. Thanks.

Cheers
Robyn

THere a quite a few articles on trove re this family on various QLD newspapers
http://trove.nla.gov.au/

These are just a selection.

Jan 1914 Engagement notice for Alston/Garbutt:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/84397703?searchTerm=alston%20garbutt&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=191

Another dated Dec 1913:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60388343?searchTerm=kitty%20alston%20garbutt&searchLimits=


Edit: Re The article that you referred to about the death of a 7yr old boy
Is this it?
It says she was a 4yr old girl ??

1927
:http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/40572526?searchTerm=frank%20alston&searchLimits=

Death of a son:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Charles Roland Alston
Name: Charles Roland Alston
Death Date: 9 Jun 1935
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Frank Newton
Mother's Name: Kate Winifred Garbutt
Registration Year: 1935
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 001694
Page Number: 24

His death announcement
:http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61975203?searchTerm=charles%20Alston&searchLimits=l-decade=193|||l-category=Family+Notices|||l-year=1935

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/mainMenuSubmit.m?main_menu=IndexSearch

(not sure of Births after 1914)

Chris :)

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Frank Newton Alston
Spouse Name: Kats Winifred Garbutt
Marriage Date: 30 Jan 1915
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1915
Registration number: 000876
Page Number: 26

Name: Frank Newton Alston
Death Date: 17 May 1960
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Rowland Simpson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Annie Jones
Registration Year: 1960
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B037937
Page Number: 37

Name: Frank Newton Alston
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1884
Father's Name: Rowland Simpson Alston
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Annie Jones
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 231
Registration number: 001114

(can see above, if no luck try Cherilyn, below link)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324

Chris :)

Yeah, sorry. Should I have spelled Queensland in full? Thought I was posting to the Aussie .com.au site

Yes we have the parent's marriage ... 30 Jan 1915. Don't know where, but assume Ingham, North Queensland, as that's where they were living at the time.

I suppose it's possible that some of the children were born BEFORE they were married, but I don't think so.

Have a death date for the 1st boy, Charles, 9 June 1935, and have seen somewhere that he was 18, which would make his birth year abt 1917, which could be right.

The 2nd boy, Eric. I have seen a newpaper article about a drowning in early Jan 1927 at Magnetic Island, Queensland, of an ALSTON boy aged 7. Assuming he turned 7 sometime in 1926, would make his birth year about abt 1919, which also could be right.

The girl, Beryl, I've seen as 1923, which could also be right, as I've seen shipping notices for the family going back to England in 1936, with the daughter, Beryl, aged 13.

All of this is heresay, and is not confirmed. Would love some REAL dates and places.

Thanks
Cheers
Robyn