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Susan

Susan Report 16 Nov 2012 11:53

Can anyone help me to find birth records for my mother and other siblings? No trace anywhere? She died in 1986 and always said she was born on Waterloo Station. I thought she was joking, but now I think she might be right. She told me in 1979ish that she had difficulty getting a passport because of the lack of birth certificate. My grandmother was flighty, to be polite! Thanks in advance.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Nov 2012 12:01

Who is your Mother and when was she born?

What are the names of her siblings?

And who was your Grandmother?

We need more details before we can try to work it out.

Susan

Susan Report 16 Nov 2012 12:16

Mother's name: Ruby Eileen Patricia Brewer (maiden name) - could also be Shore! The siblings I can't find are Joan (no idea of other names) and George.There are many more, but I have found those. My grandmother was Violet EE Gaylard originally, then married W E G Shore in 1909 and the names I have given were born subsequently. George was the oldest of the three, known as Shore, while Ruby and Joan were known as Brewer. Also, no trace of my grandmother after 1901 until 1930's! Any help at all - I would be chuffed! :-)

Susan

Susan Report 16 Nov 2012 12:18

Sorry, forgot to say mother born around 1927 and died 1986 - no idea where! She always said she was born on Waterloo Station.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:28

so married in Somerset

Name: Violet Elsie E Gaylard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1909
Registration district: Wincanton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 807

spouse William Ewart G Shore


have you found them on the 1911 census?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:32

Name: Violet Elsie E Gaylard
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889
Registration district: Taunton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 317

so was about 37 when your mum was born

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:33

died as Brewer did she remarry ?

Name: Violet Elsie E Brewer
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1889
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Yeovil
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 23
Page: 1686

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2012 12:33

For ref

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Gaylard Violet Elsie E Taunton 5c 317


Andy

Susan

Susan Report 16 Nov 2012 12:36

No. By that time, they had at least one child, probably two. first child, I THINK, was William Walter Stephen born shortly after marriage.....ahem!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:37

hubby maybe cant find a death on BMDS so may be him

SHORE, W E G

Rank:
Private
Service No:
1634
Date of Death:
12/02/1917
Regiment/Service:
Gloucestershire Regiment

7th Bn.
Grave Reference
XIII. C. 2.
Cemetery
AMARA WAR CEMETERY



Armed Forces registration event: Death

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Name: SHORE, William E
Unit: Gloucestershire Regiment
Rank: Private
Number: 1634
Year: 1917
Volume: I.52
Page: 281
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

Eileen

Eileen Report 16 Nov 2012 12:37

Hi, There is a Ruby E.P.King registered Lambeth JFM 1927 Lambeth (right for Waterloo! ) 1d/541
Worth a try. Eileen

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 16 Nov 2012 12:38

Have you got the marriage cert for W E G Shore?

the entry on freebmd only list 2 names on the transcription (their should be 4) and as the spouse was not listed on the index untill 1911 you would need the cert or other evidance to prove he married Violet Elsie E Gaylard

Roy

Susan

Susan Report 16 Nov 2012 12:38

Also - don't think she remarried. She ran off with L Brewer and some of the children were left behind and others born! She used Brewer name.

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 16 Nov 2012 12:42

1911 census - what a mess -- sending corrections
1911 England Census about Vice Elsie Emily Shoe
Name: Vice Elsie Emily Shoe
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Taunton, Somerset
Civil parish: Abbas and Temple Combe
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Combe Hill Cottage, Abbas & Templecombe
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 23
Estimated Marriage Year: 1888
Registration district: Wincanton
Registration District Number: 310
Sub-registration district: Milborne Port
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 14429
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ewart Gladeton Shoe 24
Vice Elsie Emily Shoe 22
William Walter Stephen Shoe 1
George Shoe 4/12

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 14429; Schedule Number: 13; .

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 16 Nov 2012 12:43

Possible children to that marriage shore/Gaylard or the only ones i can find

Births Mar 1915

SHORE Wilfred L G Gaylard Merthyr T. 11a 1666

Births Sep 1919

SHORE Stanley C Gaylard Langport 5c 435

Births Dec 1922

Shore Leonard I Gaylard Langport 5c 480


Roy

Helen

Helen Report 16 Nov 2012 12:44

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about William Ewart Shore
Name: William Ewart Shore
Birth Place: Shepton Mallet
Death Date: 12 Feb 1917
Death Location: Mesopotamia
Enlistment Location: Bristol
Rank: Private
Regiment: Gloucestershire Regiment
Battalion: 7th (Service) Battalion
Number: 1634
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2012 12:44

Here is 1911

1911 England Census
about William Ewart Gladeton Shoe
Name: William Ewart Gladeton Shoe
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shepton Mallet, Somerset
Civil parish: Abbas and Temple Combe
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Combe Hill Cottage, Abbas & Templecombe
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fruit and Fish Hawker
Registration district: Wincanton
Registration District Number: 310
Sub-registration district: Milborne Port
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 14429
Household Members: Name Age
William Ewart Gladeton Shoe 24
Vice Elsie Emily Shoe 22
William Walter Stephen Shoe 1
George Shoe 4/12




Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:47

Two Somerset births

Births Sep 1919
SHORE Stanley C Gaylard Langport 5c 435
Births Dec 1922
Shore Leonard I Gaylard Langport 5c 480

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:50

George they are in Wincanton reg district in 1911

Births Dec 1910
SHORE George Wincanton 5c 325


Births Dec 1909
SHORE William Walter S Shepton M 5c 354

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 12:56

any idea of birth year for Joan ?