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Hello
Can anyone please help me to find more details about John Breakspear,1760,birthplace unknown,and
Emma Salmon,1760,possibly born in Oxfordshire.These dates may not be exactly right.They married in 1801 in Chipping Norton.They had a daughter called Jane Breakspear born 1804,she married John Davis. Thanks Pat

Is this your Jane?


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Jane Breakspear
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1804
Christening Date: 20 Jan 1805
Christening Place: Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: John Breakspear
Mother's Name: Emma

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: John Breakspear
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1807
Christening Date: 23 Aug 1807
Christening Place: Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: John Breakspear
Mother's Name: Emma

Hello Gins.Thank you
I think it is. Kings Langley rings a bell.I think they may be linked to Breakspears/Brakspears brewers.The company told me the Salmons and Breakspears were always getting married.I just need to chase John's and Emma's lines back to see details of their parents,and get back another generation. Pat

That's why the name sounded so familiar Pat; the brewery. Before children, when hubby used to go to away football matches and sometimes I would go with him, we would find pubs which sold 'local' beers and try them out.

And I've just remembered. Nicholas Breakspear became Pope Adrian IV

I hate it when you know a name but can't place it.

So anyway I Googled old Nick and found this on Wiki. It might give you another angle to research the family from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Adrian_IV

Excerpt for you

Pope Adrian IV (c. 1100 – 1 September 1159),[1] born Nicholas Breakspear or Breakspeare, was Pope from 1154 to 1159.
Adrian IV has been the only Englishman so far to occupy the papal chair.[2][3] It is generally believed that Nicholas Breakspear was born at Breakspear Farm[4][5][6][7] in the parish of Abbots Langley in Hertfordshire and received his early education at the Abbey School, St Albans (St Albans School).

Ive had to laugh at myself. Im sat here thinking where does the name Brewer come into this and whats Jill banging on about ale for!

Doh :-)


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About this collection
name: John Breakspear
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 12 Apr 1777
baptism/christening place: CHIPPING NORTON,OXFORD,ENGLAND

father's name: William Breakspear

mother's name: Elisabth.
indexing project (batch) number: C02016-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 95229


Looks promising?

Hi Jill
Thanks for replying.
Our branch of the Breakspears end up in Birmingham,and then Jane marries into the Davis family.They gave one of their daughters the 2nd Christian name of Breakspear.It seemed to be practice to use mums maiden names as a Christian name.
Not sure where her brother went as I haven't looked down his line .But our family history is based all over,including Birmingham and Gloucester.Lovely to talk to you. Pat

Ey up!


1851 England Census
about Emma Breakspear
Name: Emma Breakspear
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1778
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 2058
Folio: 854
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Breakspear 73
Thomas Salman 14 <<Nephew

John and Jane Davies b1805 are living next door

likely you are related to my maternal Breakspears from Berkshire/Oxford

I believe Breakspears brewery is still on the go - there are bottles of the stuff in supermarkets

they also had a biscuit factory which became Huntley and Palmers

I found it a very easy family to trace - all on the free Mormon site - www.familysearch.org

Hi Gins
Yes it does,thanks so much. Pat

also if you look in "Search" top right hand corner you will find many Breakspear connections on this site - one member and I share 35 connections - we have actually met

Pat

Ive added who is living next door to Emma

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Burial (if related)

First name(s): Ann
Last name: BREAKSPEAR
Date of burial 30 Jun 1807
Age at death: 4
Calculated year of birth: 1803
Place of burial Kings Langley
Dedication: All Saints
County: Hertfordshire
Kings Langley All Saints:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1800 - 1852
Data provider: Hertfordshire Family & Population History

Chris :)

1851 England Census

Name: John Breakspear
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 2061
Folio: 288
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Breakspear 43
Elizabeth Breakspear 15
John Breakspear 13
John Tilstey 13


Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: John Breakspear
Spouse: Mary Hunt
Marriage Date: 1827
Parish: Chipping Norton Oxfordshire

Gins. Shakes head. Did you think I just bring alcohol into the subject just because I bring alcholol into the subject? :-D

Going to eat. Back in a bit.

Hi Ann
I read somewhere that the brewery had been taken over by another firm,this was some time ago, (can't remember the name for the life of me),but they were still using the names of the beers.I didn't know they were connected to Huntley and Palmer biscuits.Crumbs!! Pat

Jill :-P


:-D


Pat at least you know where Emma Salman was born now :-D

Gins you are a gem .Sounds like you're from North of Watford like me?

Chris Thank you,this could be a relation, Pat

Pat. All the ordinary and normal people in this land are north of the Watford Gap :-D

Gins. Back at you with extra :-D :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P

My maternal paternal Busby line came from Chipping Norton, Coombe and surrounding. Wonder if they might have known each other.

Added: Apologies to those nice normal people who live south of it but I think you know what I mean. ;-) <3