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Marie

Marie Report 1 Dec 2012 08:09

Searching occupation of Thomas Henry White in Victoria about 1875 in Australia who had second marriage to martha and lived at Essendon Victoria Australia.

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 10:43

Surely his occupation will be recorded on the marriage cert.....................

There is no census info for Australia........all records are routinely destroyed once collated

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Dec 2012 11:32

There are ER's which give information, but its difficult to pin down which Thomas Henry White in Victoria is yours.

Do you have any idea when he had his 2nd marriage? Or when wife no. 1 died or divorced? What was 'her' name?

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 12:00

I doubt that the ER's will give info about his occupation.......unless they differ from the UK version

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Dec 2012 16:30

The ones on Ancestry do, but it may depend on the year. They won't say 'where' he worked, just what the occupation was.

Just taking any old Thomas Henry White living in Victoria, Australia

Thomas Henry White
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1903
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Surrey Hills

The image gives the address as Rose Avenue, Surrey Hills.
Occupation Plasterer.

As the names are listed alphabetically by surname, one can see that there is also a Mary White at the same address, occupation Home Duties.
There is no relationship to or about the Head of household or qualification for voting given against the peoples names.

Later ones give a more precise address. Unfortunatley, if someone with a different surname also lives there, it won't show up as a 'household', unlike the London ones on Ancestry. You'd have to look for them seperately

It may be possible to make an address search. If someone has tried that, they could advise.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Dec 2012 16:38

Have a guess at this being the marriage???


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Henery White
Spouse Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1887
Registration number: 7543

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Dec 2012 16:50

It's the 1875 in the OP which is confusing - is that the estimated yob, year of marriage or even the year Marie is hoping for an occupation?

It's possible that a 12 year old could marry..........??? ;-)

Marie

Marie Report 1 Dec 2012 20:16

Thank you everyone for your help, I think the Thomas Henery White married to Martha is probably correct, I have only just found out that there was a second marriage, I was put off by the spelling of his christian name, If this is the correct Thomas he was born to Alexander White in Tasmania and Mary Smith probably about 1847, I know nothing else at all of his parents. I will send for the marriage certificate in hope that I might find some more information.
The previous marriage was to Louisa Linacre in Victoria.

Marie

Gins

Gins Report 1 Dec 2012 21:15

Hi Marie

You need to buy, certs

x

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 7 Dec 2012 15:01

Marie, here is the marriage of Thomas White and Louise Linacre from Ancestry



Name: Thomas White
Spouse Name: Louise Linacre
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1873
Registration number: 4808

Vanessa

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 7 Dec 2012 15:05

Marie,

This is the death of Louisa White nee Linacre

Name: Louisa White
Death Place: Whroo, Victoria
Age: 28
Father's Name: Linacre Jno
Mother's Name: Margt Clark
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 7236
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857


Vanessa

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 7 Dec 2012 15:46

Marie,

This is the only Thomas White marrying a martha in Victoria after 1885 (the death of his first wife.).

Name: Thomas Henery White
Spouse Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1887
Registration number: 7543


Birth & Death of Martha White nee Sawyer

Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Father's Name: William Sawyer
Mother's Name: Mary Cairies
Birth Place: Collingwood, Victoria
Registration Year: 1855
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 9180

Name: Martha Nelson White
Death Place: Richmond, Victoria
Age: 77
Father's Name: Wm Sawyer
Mother's Name: Unknown Margt
Registration Year: 1933
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 7047
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856


Children's birth & deaths of Thomas and Louisa White

Name: William Henry White
Father's Name: Thomas Henry White
Mother's Name: Louise Linacre
Birth Place: Rush, Victoria
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 25476

Name: William Henry White
Death Place: Victoria
Age: 6 Months
Father's Name: Thomas Henry
Mother's Name: Louisa Linecre
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 6828
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876

Name: Alexander John White
Father's Name: Thomas Henry White
Mother's Name: Louisa Sinacre
Birth Place: Whro, Victoria
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 1885

Name: Alexr Jno White
Death Place: Whroo, Victoria
Age: 2
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Louisa Linacre
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 10694
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883

Children of Thomas Henry White and Martha Nelson Sawyer

Name: Ada Lewis Cairns White
Father's Name: Thomas Henry White
Mother's Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Birth Place: Ascot Vale, Victoria
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 26245

Name: George Nelson White
Father's Name: Thomas Henry White
Mother's Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Birth Place: Ascot Vale, Victoria
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 19151

Name: George Nelson White
Death Place: Victoria
Age: 78
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Registration Year: 1969
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 2194
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891

Name: Ernest Wm White
Father's Name: Thos Hy White
Mother's Name: Martha Nelson Sawyer
Birth Place: Esdon, Victoria
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 32286

Name: Erest William White
Death Place: Bentleigh, Victoria
Age: 72
Father's Name: Unknonn
Mother's Name: Martha Sawyer
Registration Year: 1965
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 12818
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893

Hope this is of some value to you.

Vanessa

Marie

Marie Report 8 Dec 2012 07:23

Wow Vanessa, and thank you for your research, I have the marriage certificate now of Thomas Henery White and Martha, it gives his mother as Mary White and his father Alexanders occupation as cooper, his own ocupation is miner, I hope that I am tracking the correct person.



Marie.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Dec 2012 08:35

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=va64rd0rcit4ccblabc8p7dqq3&action=printpage;topic=577382.0

(a google of Martha Nelson Sawyer, brings up above, plus another, from somebody else looking)

Chris :)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Dec 2012 12:46

Marie,

Found Martha and her son George Nelson White on a number of the Electoral Rolls from 1914 onwards but Thomas Henry is not there.

Name: Martha Nelson White
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1914
State: Victoria
District: Maribyrnong
Subdistrict: Ascot Vale

Name: Martha Nelson White
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919
State: Victoria
District: Maribyrnong
Subdistrict: Ascot Vale

Name: Martha Nelson White
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Yarra
Subdistrict: Richmond Central

Thomas is with Martha in the following ER

Name: Martha White
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1903
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne Ports
Subdistrict: Ascot Vale

Vanessa

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 9 Dec 2012 05:24

Marie already has most of this from back in January www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,577382.0.html

Have you checked out whether the Alexander WHITE & Frances SMITH (both convicts) are the likely parents for Thos?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2014 08:14

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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335883