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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Jan 2013 16:20

Looking for info on George Dixon (Ireland) who married a Margaret Hull (Ireland) daughter Ellen( Nellie) Constance. They may have married approx 1874. Nellie came to England for education. Nellie married a Cecil Chaplin in 1901. Any info would be appreciated.

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Jan 2013 17:41

1901 and 1911 Irish censuses are FREE

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Jan 2013 17:47

For INFO
Cecil Horace Chaplin Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Westminster London
married..............
Ellen Constance Dixon Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Westminster London

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Jan 2013 17:50

Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
Chaplin Cecil Horace Melton M. 7a 255

Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
Chaplin Cecil Horace 37 Eton 3a 489

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Jan 2013 17:54

I know you probably have the info I've posted, but the idea is to help with tracing Ellen, as a starting point

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Jan 2013 17:58

1901 England Census

Name: Cecil H Chaplin
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Asfordby,
Civil parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 847
Folio: 149
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Oldroyd 68
Elizabeth Oldroyd 39
Laura Oldroyd 36
Emily Oldroyd 32
Cecil H Chaplin 32
Nellie C Chaplin 25

Unfortunately, she only gives 'Ireland' for her birthplace - not very informative

You are basing your estimate of the parents' marriage on Ellen's birth year, I imagine.

This assumes that she was the first -or only - child of the marriage

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 25 Jan 2013 11:53

Thank you very much for the info. Some I have, some not. I have the marriage certificate of Ellen n Cecil.These were my Maternal Grandparents.
I appreciate your help.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jan 2013 21:26

Jennifer..
Ellens Birth....
name: Ellen Dixon
gender: Female
birth date: 19 Mar 1873
birthplace: Ireland
father's name: George Dixon
mother's name: Margaret Hull Dixon
indexing project (batch) number: I01791-9
system origin: Ireland-ODM
source film number: 255867

Do you have the Cecil and Nellie 1911..?
From their MC what was her fathers occup.?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jan 2013 21:59

Jennifer was Cecil the son of Clifford Waterman Chaplin and Rosa Chaplin who built (1876) and lived in Burrough Hall Leics....?

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2013 06:54

If the death posted by Reggie is correct, I think this is the probate:

Cecil Horace Chaplin <<of Old Lodge, Taplow, Bucks
Probate Date: 6 Aug 1906
Death Date: 19 Mar 1906
Death Place: Buckinghamshire, England
Registry: London, England

Probate to Nellie Catherine Chaplin, widow - £452 15s 8d so not sure as the middle name is wrong.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 27 Jan 2013 13:40

To everyone, thank you for all the info. Yes Cecil was the son of Clifford Waterman Chaplin. Cecil died in 1906.
All this added info is fantastic, so thank you all again. Not quite the brick wall I had.
No I do not have George Dixon`s occupation.
Thank you for the probate details, possibly confusion with the C, Catherine instead of Constance.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2013 14:13

Hello Jennifer, you shouldn't start new threads about the same family.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1318446

This is from the new thread

"Nellie became a widow in 1906 after Cecil her husband died. They had one daughter, and I cannot find the death of Nellie or maybe a remarriage. I have found her with her daughter in 1911 census and that is the last I have. Nellie it seems was born in Ireland, yes thats all i have."

Could you go and delete the other one?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2013 14:24

There is this death which might fit with date of birth but it is in a different area:-

Name: CHAPLIN, Nellie C
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1937
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 63
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 333

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2013 14:25

Jennifer, if Ellen/Nellie was your maternal grandmother then who was her child that you're descended from? Do they have no knowledge of what happened to her?

On your tree on Ancestry you have Nellie's death as 1937 Q1 "unknown" - where did that info come from?

Where were they in 1911?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2013 14:42

Found the 1911:

YOUNG, May Servant Single F 17 1894 Housemaid Hants Southampton
COOK, Florence Housemaid Single F 26 1885 Housemaid London
WHITE, Olive Housemaid Single F 17 1894 Housemaid Hantsn Southampton
JELP, Eva Housemaid Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Birmingham
RIDDETT, Eliza Still Room Maid Single F 18 1893 Still Room Maid Hants Southampton
BUTTER, Lillian Housemaid Single F 21 1890 Housemaid Hants Southampton
LOOP, Louise A Bookkeeper Single F 29 1882 Bookkeeper Hants Bournemouth
ARKETT, Elenor Housekeeper Single F 27 1884 Housekeeper Hereford Ledbury
TORYTH, George John Fitzroy Single M 69 1842 Lt Colonel Late Lt Or Gd Heath Yorkshire
>> CHAPLIN, Nellie C Widow F 30 1881 Bucks Old Lodge Taplow <<<
>> CHAPLIN, Marjorie C Single F 7 1904 Bucks Old Lodge Taplow <<<
?? GRENOW, Annie F 35 1876 Maid Bucks Old Lodge Taplow ??
?? HAYDON, Andrew F Married M 40 1871 Gentleman London To Pallmall S W ??
PARKER, Arthur Cecil Head Married M 37 1874 Land Agent Shirburn Oxon
PARKER, Millicent T Wife Married F 26 1885 Leek Staffs
RHOADES, Margaret C Single F 74 1837 U S America Visitor
DOONAN, Anna M Single F 30 1881 U S America Visitor
RHOADES, Archibald Heraic Widower M 76 1835 Physician U S America Visitor
SKINHEAD, Edward Head M 39 1872 Hotel Manager Kingston Jamaica
SKINHEAD, Agnes Wife F 39 1872 Northallerton York Resident

RG number: RG14 Piece: 5795
Reference: RG14PN5795 RG78PN264 RD94 SD1 ED13 SN45
Registration District: Lymington
Sub District: Lymington
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Brockenhurst

Address: Balmer Lawn Hotel Brockenhurst Hampshire County: Hampshire

The reason I've put ?? next to Annie Greenow and Andrew F Haydon is that their entries, along with those of Nellie and Marjorie had been completed in the same handwriting (might be coincidence, though).

I do think that Annie Greenow may have been Nellie's maid as she has put the same birthplace. Looks like they have put where they came from (perhaps where they lived last) rather than where they were born.

Nellie has also lopped a few years off her age!

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Jan 2013 14:57

Jennifer...Given the pedigree of the Chaplin family it may be worth checking out a will or probate for Clifford Waterman Chaplin father of Cecil..it may have mentioned something about Cecil's daughter which may give you a clue..

Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chaplin Clifford W 80 Lutterworth 7a 1

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 14:58

?Marjorie Cecil Chaplin' for the grandparent?

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chaplin Marjorie Cecil Kensington 1a 102

But I do wish posters would put up what they already know! Saves time in looking over old ground.

Then again, this is harsh - the OP was looking for info on the previous generation in Ireland!

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Jan 2013 14:59

The 1937 death Kathleen has found is Nellie Charlotte. She is in the Warks ER on Amncestry.

Andy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2013 15:07

No, you're not being harsh Flip! What we're looking at now is a new request for what happened to Nellie after she was widowed (I copied it from the new thread started)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2013 15:13

The more I look at it, the more I think Nellie was with Andrew Haydon on the 1911 census. I've traced him back a bit and he was born Andrew Frederick Temple Haydon.

Came across this:

Edinburgh Gazette - 1 September 1911

Bankrupts - Receiving Orders

Included in the list is Andrew Frederick Temple Haydon of 20 Pall Mall Street, London.

(Same address as he gives on 1911).
______________________________________________________________

His wife twice filed for divorce:

J 77/917/7855 Divorce Court File: 7855. Appellant: Blanche Catherine Ann Haydon. Respondent: Andrew Frederic Temple Haydon. Type: Wife's petition for divorce [wd]. 1907

J 77/2376/4270 Divorce Court File: 4270. Appellant: Blanche Catherine Ann Haydon. Respondent: Andrew Frederick Temple Haydon. Type: Wife's petition for divorce [wd]. 1927

The papers for the first petition are on ancestry. She was divorcing him for adultery, which he didn't seem to dispute. There's loads to read so will be back ......

Added:
She cites the widow of Cecil H Chapman as being the person her husband committed adultery with.