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Kerri

Kerri Report 26 Jan 2013 23:51

Can anyone find what happened to Alexander BALFOUR b c 1807 Ireland,wife Margaret (nee HANCOCK) b c 1822 (either Ireland -1861 census or on board ship at sea-1871 census) & daughter Jane born 1852 Galway,Ireland?

In 1861 they were living in Liverpool & 1871 mistranscribed as BELFORT. (on this Jane said born Liverpool but its the correct family as Alexander is blind on both these census). Jane was born in Galway,Ireland-have birth cert & also marriage cert of Alexander & Jane.

Looking for any later census sightings of them or likely deaths/marriages etc

Thanks for any help

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jan 2013 00:37

Is this from your tree ?



Alexander Balfour
Birth 1807 in Ireland


Marriage to Margaret Hancock
15 Apr 1845

— Age: 38
Galway, Co Galway, Ireland
On marriage of Alexander & Margaret,his father is recorded as Alexander. So was witness Susan FELTERS (FELTUS,nee BALFOUR),the older sister of Alexander (junior) or his Aunt? Im inclined to think a married sister would more likely be a witness to marriage


Kerri

Kerri Report 27 Jan 2013 00:40

yes thats mine

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 07:26

For info:

Alexander Balfour
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Balfour
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 219
Piece: 2651
Folio: 107
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Balfour 54 << general dealer
Margaret Balfour 39
Jane Balfour 10

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 07:51

Apart from the 1871 census, can't see any deaths/marriages for any of them - wonder if they returned to Ireland??

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Jan 2013 08:53

Kerri...? Possible death for Alex. given surname was mispelt 1871 then this is the nearest in age and christian name...

Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"BELFORD" Alexander 61 Liverpool 8b 17

? Possible marriage daughter Jane 1871. Dec. quarter 8b 147

Belford Jane.
Myers James

Marriage at Our Lady St Nicholas and St Anne's Church.

Kerri

Kerri Report 27 Jan 2013 10:09

Thanks for finding possible death for Alexander & marriage for Jane. They are just the ideas I was hoping someone may come up with.
Cheers
Kerri
BTW how did you know where the marriage was held?
"Marriage at Our Lady St Nicholas and St Anne's Church."

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 10:36

Her father's name is right, but he is a cabinet maker?? He was blind and a general dealer on both census returns - so not sure about that marriage, when was Jane born please Kerri? It's just I would have thought she would have been 21 by the time of this marriage, so not a minor. (This record is from Ancestry parish records)

Jane Belford
Age: Minor
Marriage Date: 1 Oct 1871
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: James Myers <<miller
Father's Name: Alexander Belford
Spouse Father's Name: Lenard Myers << carter

Bride & groom both of Woodstock Street.

ADDED - It is the right marriage, Jane & her parents were living Woodstock street in 1871 - just took another look at the census!!

Kerri

Kerri Report 27 Jan 2013 11:21

GREAT find!! Thankyou very much. I knew this was the best forum for help finding elusive people.

Off to have a look for more on Jane

Cheers
Kerri

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 11:27

Check you messages, I just sent the marriage image.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Jan 2013 12:05

Flip...Thanks for that...Just a shot in the dark from my end....!!

Approx dob for Jane was 1852 so she would still be a minor for marriage 1871

Kerri... (Lancs BMD Index)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

MYERS James BELFORD Jane Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool


Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 12:29

It was a good spot Erin! - I'd tried phonetic searches on freebmd but they didn't turn it up. Don't seem to be able to find James & Jane Myers, nor Margaret Balfour/Belford/? after this marriage - any more bright ideas?

Jane made her mark on the marriage record, so I would assume none of them could write - hence the problems with the variations on the name.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Jan 2013 15:40

Flip...I havent located them either but have been over the way on another thread..!

Does it give a number for Woodstock Street on the MC..?

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2013 17:17

No, doesn't give one I'm afraid. But Jane and parents were living at No 5, Court 17, 26 Woodstock Street at the time of the 1871 census.

Kerri

Kerri Report 28 Jan 2013 00:08

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

I was searching but havent found anything yet. Though I did find this death-looked interesting

Name: John Balfour Myers
Birth: 8 May 1930
Death: Sep 1990 - Exeter, Devon, England

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jan 2013 06:51

The only clue I can think of is to try to find James and his father - I've tried looking for them in earlier census, but no luck. We assume James was at least 21 when they married, but he could have been older, so I've looked for deaths for his father Leonard/Lenard but there is nothing obvious coming up. We have no idea where James is from, there's no sign (that i can see) of him in Liverpool on 1871 census.

I'm beginning to wonder if James was from Ireland or even further afield bearing in mind Liverpool was a thriving port back then?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Jan 2013 08:40

Births Jun 1930 Myers John B Redgrove Islington 1b 504

Marriages Jun 1924
Myers David N Redgrove Paddington 1a 192
Redgrove Letty E Myers Paddington 1a 192


Not Seeing a birth for David N Myers. Perhaps he was not born in England or Wales.

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jan 2013 13:11

Think I got James in 1861, all family born Preston, Lancs. Living 23 Woodstock Street!

Leonard Myres
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Myres
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 2654
Folio: 248
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Leonard Myres 50
Elizabeth Myres 40
James Myres 17
Ellen Myres 14
Edward Myres 12
Jane Myres 8
Joseph Myres 5
Samuel Myres 4
John Rooney 24 <<lodgers, born Ireland
Ann Rooney 20

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jan 2013 13:20

1871 still at same address, mother is now a widow but this is the same family despite the change of name and birth places (all now state Liverpool):

James Myerscough
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Myerscough
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 3761
Folio: 70
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Myerscough 49
James Myerscough 26
Edward Myerscough 21
Joseph Myerscough 17
Samuel Myerscough 15
William Roberts 54

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jan 2013 13:26

James Myerscough
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Myerscough
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Dalrymple St 2/2
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer Flour Mill (Cn)

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3595
Folio: 44
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
James Myerscough 36
Jane Myerscough 35 << born Ireland
Elizabeth Myerscough 9
Margaret Myerscough 6
June Myerscough 5
Leonard Myerscough 7
Alexander Myerscough 2
James Myerscough
William Roberts 65

James Myerscough
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Myerscough
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2900
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Myerscough 48
Jane Myerscough 38
Elizabeth Myerscough 18
Bernard Myerscough 17
Maggie Myerscough 15
Jane Myerscough 13
Alexander Myerscough 12
James Myerscough 10
Martha Myerscough 8
William Myerscough 6
Edward Myerscough 4
Mary E Myerscough 1
Charles Tennant 22

But James is a widow in 1901:

James Myerscough
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 3408
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas A James 32
Elizabeth James 29
James Myerscough 59
Alexander Myerscough 22
William Myerscough 16
Edward Myerscough 14
Mary E Myerscough 11
May Myerscough 7
Albert S James 12
Patrick Glenon 37