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Finding Ancestors who are not on the 1911 census

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Yatesy

Yatesy Report 10 Feb 2013 19:02

I have two ancestors that I can't find on the 1911 census.
They may have been in Canada at the time.
With only a Name, DOB, and Birth address how can i find them?
:-S

Yatesy

Yatesy Report 10 Feb 2013 19:06

If it helps they are :-

William Henry Yates b 1883 Lechlade, Glos.
Frederick Charles Yates b 1885 Reading, Berks

Father:- Arthur Yates

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:12

Is this him for ref please?

1901 England Census
about William H Yates
Name: William H Yates
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Kings Langley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kings Langley All Saints
Town: Kings Langley
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hemel Hempstead
Sub-registration district: Kings Langley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 1324
Folio: 50
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Henry G Hodges 38
Martha Hodges 38
Ada C Hodges 14
Albert H G Hodges 11
Arthur G Hodges 10
Hubert S Hodges 3
William H Yates 18 ************Worker in a Flour Mill


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:13

???????

1911 Wales Census
about William Yates
Name: William Yates
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gloust, Gloucester, England
Civil parish: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 71 Hewell St Lower Grange Cardiff
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 32161
Household Members: Name Age
William Yates 28
Mary Yates 24
Filly Yates 9
William Yates 7
Nelly Yates 2
George Tumey 23
George Griffiths 26
Harry Mills 22


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:19

Do you know who William's parents were?

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Feb 2013 19:19

Mel, I wonder if that is this William?


1901 Wales Census about William Yates
Name: William Yates
Age in 1901: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Yates
Mother's Name: Matilda Yates
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Canton St Paul
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Piece: 4988
Folio: 106
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
James Yates 49
Matilda Yates 46
William Yates 18
Nellie Yates 16
Henry Yates 15
Lizzie Yates 13
Emily Yates 11
George Fowler 42


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:25

If this is Frederick he is travelling alone and should be on the 1911 census.

He is a farm Labourer.

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about Frederick Yates
Name: Frederick Yates
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1884
Departure Date: 13 Mar 1912
Port of Departure: Bristol, England
Destination Port: Halifax, Canada
Ship Name: Royal Edward
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Royal Edward' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Royal Canadian Northern Steamships Limited
Official Number: 125656
Master: William Roberts

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:26

Yes I wondered too Aviegal as I have that census up too.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 19:27

Whose father is Arthur Yates, both of them??

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Feb 2013 19:35

Can't find Fred in 1901 or either of them in 1891?

What was Arthur's year and place of birth please? Do you know who he married and what his occupation was?

Margee

Margee Report 10 Feb 2013 20:21

The one on that 1912 passenger list was a returning Canadian.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Feb 2013 21:14

1891 ??

Name: Wm Henry Etter
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Arthur D Etter
Mother's Name: Sarah E Etter
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Reading
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Reading
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 993
Folio: 115
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur D Etter 36 - Lechlade - blacksmith
Sarah E Etter 31
Emily E Etter 11
Wm Henry Etter 8
Fred K Chas Etter 5 - Reading
Eather Ann Etter 3
Edith C Etter 1

Class: RG12; Piece: 993; Folio: 115; Page: 33; GSU roll: 6096103.

I think that it is Yates on image



Could someone check and see if they think it is Yates before I do a name correction.
Thanks



1901
Name: Arthur W Yake
[Arthur W Yates]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Yake
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Tilehurst St George
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Reading
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1146
Folio: 42
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur W Yake 47
Sarah A Yake 41
Esther A Yake 13
Ernest A Yake 9
Albert E Yake 6


Class: RG13; Piece: 1146; Folio: 42; Page: 10.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Feb 2013 21:26

1911 just for info

Name: Arthur William Yates
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Reading
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 56 Chester Street, Reading, Berks
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Blacksmiths Pensioner
Registration district: Reading
Registration District Number: 121
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 6569
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur William Yates 57
Sarah Ann Yates 52
Ernest Arthur Yates 19
Albert Edward Yates 16

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Feb 2013 21:36

Do you know if he married ?


Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MORGAN Margaret Reading 2c 813
PILCHER Bob Reading 2c 813
TAYLOR Emily Mabel Reading 2c 813
YATES Frederick Charles Reading 2c 813



1911 has a Bob Pilcher with wife called Emily Mabel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 21:48

O well done Maureen that looks good to me.

I had to feed the hungry.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Feb 2013 21:51

Thanks

Just done a name correction

Still can not find them in 1911

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 22:32

On the 1901 census G B put up there is also the Mother in Law living with them Emma Hodges aged 60 born Glous.

She is not on the list but on the actual census and then a lodger.

RG13; Piece: 1146; Folio: 42; Page: 10.

1881 England Census
about Arthur W. Yates
Name: Arthur W. Yates
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Yates
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Lechlade
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Old Wharf
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Brook Cleaner ********************

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1278
Folio: 112
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur W. Yates 26
Sarah Ann Yates 21
Alice M. Yates 3
Emily E. Yates 1

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Arthur William Yates
Name: Arthur William Yates
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Registration district: Faringdon
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 421


********Sarah Ann Hodges Jul-Aug-Sep 1877 Faringdon Berkshire

James Huttell Jul-Aug-Sep 1877 Faringdon Berkshire

Sarah Ann Tidmarsh Jul-Aug-Sep 1877 Faringdon Berkshire

********* Arthur William Yates Jul-Aug-Sep 1877 Faringdon Berkshire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 22:40

1861 England Census
about Arthur Yates
Name: Arthur Yates
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Yates
Mother's Name: Eliza Yates
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Lechlade
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Piece: 728
Folio: 122
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Yates 43
Eliza Yates 43
Edward Yates 20
Albert Yates 16
Sarah A Yates 14
Eli Yates 11
Caroline Yates 11
Arthur Yates 7
Ruth Yates 4




I know this one is hard to read but..............

1871 England Census
about Arthur Netta Yater
Name: Arthur Netta Yater
[Arthur Netta Yates]
[Arthur William Yater]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Yater
Gender: Male
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Lechlade
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 1258
Folio: 13
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Yater 73 Blacksmith***********
Sarah Ann Yater 24
Arthur Netta Yater 16 ********Mason?????Arthur Will'm yates not Netta
Edith Eliza Yater 4
Henry B?? 15 = BALDWIN LODGER


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Feb 2013 22:41

Could so with some feedback from Richard as to why and when he thinks they emigrated

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Feb 2013 22:45

Great!!!!!!

parentCharles Yates <<<<<GROOMS FATHER
spouseSarah Ann Hodges

groom's nameArthur William Yates
groom's birth date1854
groom's birthplace
groom's age23
bride's nameSarah Ann Hodges
bride's birth date1859
bride's birthplace
bride's age18
marriage date30 Jul 1877*********************************
marriage placeBuscot,Berkshire,England
groom's father's nameCharles Yates

bride's father's nameHenry Hodges

indexing project (batch) numberM01770-2
system originEngland-ODM
source film number1041180