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Cashmore death look up Australia Records

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lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 16 Feb 2013 15:26

Am currently researching JOHN CASHMORE

He was born about 1796 in Ashby. Unfortunately he got into quite a lot of trouble and was eventually transported to VDL (Tasmania) on board the EDEN in 1836 and was granted a pardon in 1846.

Am trying to find out what happened to him after then.......did he return to England or build a new life in Australia / Tasmania ? :-S

I have made a previous posting regarding CASHMORE on Dereks Derbyshire site.... he is helping with the Derbyshire/Leicestershire side of things. :-D

Any information regarding Johns life after 1846 would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks
Susan

Catherine

Catherine Report 16 Feb 2013 15:33

Someone on ancestry has this person in his tree. Unfortunately it is not open to the public but it has a photo with the following title:-

Rosedale, Campbell Town Tasmania c1860 - Home of John Leake - Convict John Cashmore Employer

.......so looks as though he was still in Tasmania c1860.

Catherine

Catherine Report 16 Feb 2013 15:35

There's another one that give date of death as 1867:-

TITLE: Cashmore Charlton and Gittos convict list and ships
ATTACHED TO: John Cashmore (1796-1867)

Gee

Gee Report 16 Feb 2013 15:54

Might be worth sending for the certificate


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about John Cashmore
Name: John Cashmore
Death Date: 1867
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Place: Tamworth, New South Wales
Registration number: 7927

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 16 Feb 2013 16:04

thank you both......where will I get the certificate from, do I need to order from
Australia ? Only used to buying UK certificates.

Susan

Gee

Gee Report 16 Feb 2013 16:24

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/deaths/deathCertificates.htm

Heres the link for the application form


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/OurForms.htm

x

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 16 Feb 2013 16:25

thank you Gins :-D

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 18 Feb 2013 18:28

Sorry to bother you all again......

now we have determined that John most probably remained in Australia after his pardon. Are there any census records available that somebody could check for me that might give a clue to his whereabouts, family and occupation before he died

My subscription on a........y doesn't include any australian records.

Many thanks
Susan

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 22 Feb 2013 03:13

John received his ticket of leave in 1842. He applied to marry a fellow convict in 1852 but no idea if marriage took place:

CASHMORE John
Eden
McTAVISH Margaret
Aurora
10 JUL 1852

I don't have Tassie records but there is a John CASHMORE who married in 1855 in Victoria to Mary Anne DESMOND (reg 1333). They had 8 children 1856-79 in Woodford/Moyston. She died in 1887 aged 47. [EDIT: not the right family as this John CASHMORE died in Moyston in 1895 aged 69.]

The death for John CASHMORE in Tamworth NSW in 1867 that Catherine & Gins a found is a good match agewise...might be worth a look. Use a transcription agent (cheaper).

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 22 Feb 2013 03:24

Interestingly there is a John Cashmore ISRAEL In Launceston, Tasmania b. c1797 but he married c1844 and had several children with an Adelaide COOK up to 1864; he died in 1872. An article states JCI arrived in Launceston in 1819 so not your man but an interesting coincidence!

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 22 Feb 2013 18:43

Hi Cherilyn

Sorry for confusion with my general posting about Australian records.

Have hit a brickwall with my John Cashmore and could really do with some help if possible.

Was aware of John Cashmore ISRAEL, (believe he was also transported from England) but mine is just plain old John Cashmore........He was born c1796 in Ashby, England and transported to VDL in 1936.

I know he was granted a ticket of leave and then a pardon in 1846...........

He may have left VDL for Portland in April 1846 and settled in NSW.

I have a possible death for him in 1867 at Tamworth, NSW ............
am trying to find out where he was between 1846 and 1867.............and if he had a new family (his original wife remained in England).

Any help you could offer would be wonderful.

Again apologies for additional post

Many Thanks
Susan

EDIT - What do I need to do to use a transcription agent........never ordered/needed to get Australian documents before !

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 23 Feb 2013 01:55

http://www.transcriptions.com.au/pages/transerv.php
http://www.joymurrin.com.au/home-page/our-services/nsw/

Valerie

Valerie Report 26 Feb 2013 00:34

Hi Susan ..the TAS library has no record of that (or any other) marriage .... but have found a 'few possible departures for him' ...and so to check arrivals in other colonies.
Valerie (WAus)

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 26 Feb 2013 13:38

Hi Valerie

Have sent you an email..........Thanks for your help

Susan

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 14 Apr 2013 17:07

Hi all this wet and windy Sunday afternoon..........

Hope you dont mind me asking for some more help, your previous assistance has been wonderful but I have hit a brickwall........

I have been trying to find the death of a John Cashmore born about 1796 in Ashby, England and died in Australia. (he was transported as a convict but this has all been confirmed) I ordered a transcription of the death cert mentioned above but unfortunately it is not the right one and I just cant let it go !!!!

I have found the following Australian deaths on ancestry but do not have a worldwide subscription........would some kind person look them up for me.....before I go completely crazy !!!

I really need the state / place of death and an age if possible

John Cashmore died 1857

John H Cashmore died 1884

John Herbert Cashmore died 1888

John R L Cashmore died 1894

Many thanks
Susan

:-S

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Apr 2013 01:39

Hi Susan

I assume you ordered the 1867 death cert? Pity it wasn't right. :-(

John R L died in Sydney, NSW 1894, son of Samuel
John H died in Inverell, NSW 1884, son of John W & Eliza
John died in Robe district SA in 1857

The SA death reg may hold more info - Kerri on GR has the disks, worth a try.

Vicci

Vicci Report 15 Apr 2013 03:10

there is a scan document on ancestry
3 SEP 1879 NSW POLICE GAZETTE JNO CASHMORE

"it is requested that further enquires be made with a view to trace John Cashmore a native of Oakthorpe Derbyshire, a nailor, "

so they were looking for him even then!

"DONISTHORPE and OAKTHORPE, are two hamlets adjacent to each other, about four miles from Ashby-de-la-Zouch"

Vicci

Vicci Report 15 Apr 2013 04:28

Name: John Cashmore
Event Place: New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Missing Person
Publication Date: 26 Nov 1873
Page #: 341

Name: John Cashmore
Event Place: New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Missing Person
Publication Date: 3 Sep 1879
Page #: 327
See Also Year: 1873
See Also Page: 341

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 15 Apr 2013 17:08

Vicci thanks for the information........he is certainly an elusive character. Wonder why the police were looking for him !!

Cherilyn......have sent you a PM

Thank you both for your help.

Susan :-)

Vicci

Vicci Report 16 Apr 2013 00:49

Susan

It looks like he was listed as a missing person rather than"wanted for a crime"

I wonder if NSW Police archives would have the original missing person report that may give some clues as to whether where he had been lving or if he had any relatives?

records maybe at NSW state archives?