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Gillian

Gillian Report 16 Feb 2013 23:57

Thanks Jax, choccy and rootgatherer.

jax. Sarah Bolwell is boarding with the family, but it's a big coincidence that Gilbert's mother's maiden name is Bolwell. Oh, I've got it. I'd forgotten about that part of the tree. She was Gilbert's mother's cousin.

With regard to Penelope, that's interesting. I thought nurse child meant that the child was young and nursing, not that she was fostered. She could be the Penelope that rootgatherer has posted about.

choccy. Thanks for making me look again. As I've just said to jax, I have found Sarah now.

rootgatherer. I don't know what to say about Penelope Jones being the child of Edward and Millicent Stewart. It certainly fits, but I don't know why the parents would foster out their baby to Eliza. Eliza was 52, so she wouldn't be wet nursing her. It's nearly midnight, and I can't think properly. I will give this some more thought tomorrow, but I'm not yet convinced about Penelope's parentage.

Thank you all so much for your help.

jax

jax Report 17 Feb 2013 00:16

Gillian

Whoever this child belonged to she probably had nothing to do with Gilbert. The surname may not have even been given but the enumerator just put down Jones.

Children/babies were quite often fostered out to older people as they were the ones who did'nt have half a dozen plus children already to care for.

Gillian

Gillian Report 17 Feb 2013 11:43

jax. I'm not sure if this is a repeat message, because I typed a message to you, then looked at the previous page before continuing, and found that what I'd typed had disappeared. All I wanted to say was, maybe Gilbert's mother was fostering the child because she was a widow in 1901, with three children, and fostering might have been extra income.

rootgatherer. I have thought some more about Penelope Jones being the daughter of Edward Arthur Hamilton Stewart and Millicent Jane Court. Penelope was born in Bath in January 1901. Edward and Millicent married in Cardiff in December 1902, when Penelope was nearly 2. That sounds unconventional for the time, especially as Edward and Millicent appear to be from quality families. Is it possible that Penelope was adopted by the couple, and her birth record was altered? If so, how would I find the original birth record?, or her adoption certificate?

Gillian

Gillian Report 17 Feb 2013 12:47

Margee. I'm still confused about Gilbert Little Jones's border crossing in April 1910. I accept that he arrived on the SS Mt Eagle in 1909 and lived in Chicago between 1909 and 1910.

However, in the border crossing post, in April 1910, he appears to be heading for Chicago from Canada, and his previous permanent residence is listed as Blucher, Saskatchewan. His country of residence is Canada. Maybe his home was in Canada, but he travelled to Chicago for work. Are they close enough together for that to be feasible?

He certainly seems to have been a quick worker. He arrived in Quebec in 1909, set up residence in Blucher, Canada, then went to work and lodge in Chicago, US, marrying Hilma there a year later. Then, some time during the next 20 years, after all that effort, Gilbert dies. That works in my head, but I'm not sure how true it is!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Feb 2013 15:58

Gillian, I still think that Penelope is the child of Edward and Millicent and was only being taken care of by Eliza (as you say for extra income). The birth for PEnelope registered in 1901 ties in with the timescale of her being 10 weeks old at the time of the census. Given that neither Edward nor Milicent can be seen on the 1901 census, it looks like they fostered out their daughter (they would seem to have the financial wherewithall) and reclaimed her when they married and settled. I also think that the 1901 birth registration is the actaul birth registration and that her birth wasn't re-registered.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Feb 2013 16:19

Name: Millicent J Stewart
Birth Date: abt 1872
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 430


Name: Edward A H Stewart
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 1187


Looks like Edward re-married after Millicent died.


Name: Edward A H Stewart
Spouse Surname: Anderson, Rosaleen
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1936
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1934

Possible marriage for Penelope?

Name: Penelope Arabella Stewart
Spouse's Name: Albert Victor Grace
Marriage Date: 16 Oct 1940
Marriage Place: Georgetown, Guyana


Name: Penelope A Grace
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 643


Name: Penelope Arabella Grace
Probate Date: 3 Jan 1949
Death Date: 9 Dec 1948
Death Place: Sussex, England
Registry: London, England

Probate granted to her husband Albert Victor Grace a retired police officer. Effects £2,908. 18s. 6d.


Deaths Dec 1956 GRACE Albert V 73 Worthing 5h 716



Name: Albert Victor Grace
Probate Date: 15 Feb 1957
Death Date: 11 Dec 1956
Death Place: Sussex, England
Registry: London, England

Probate to Barclays Bank - so looks like no children?