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Help needed on swifts and niel in Ireland please

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Alemap

Alemap Report 18 Feb 2013 12:14

name Bartholomew Swift
registration district Enniscorthy
event type DEATHS
registration quarter and year Jul - Sep 1940
estimated birth year 1874
age (at death) 66
mother's maiden name
volume number 4
page number 292
digital folder number 4202048

Gins

Gins Report 18 Feb 2013 11:53

Do you know when Ellen died?

??

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Ellen Swift
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887
Death Age: 45
Registration district: Wexford
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 664
FHL Film Number: 101594

Alemap

Alemap Report 18 Feb 2013 11:53

Parents: Bartholomew Swift and Ellen Neill
Children:
Anty 04 Jul 1864 (Probably short for Anastasia)
John 21 Oct 1866
Ellen 04 Mar 1869
Mary Anne 22 Jan 1871
Bartholomew 04 Jun 1874
Catherine 16 Aug 1876
Patrick 30 Aug 1879

Most of them seem to have had a brush with the law. Information available on familysearch web site. To view originals you need to go to a FamilySearch centre.


Gins

Gins Report 18 Feb 2013 11:49

I was wondering if this is Ellen, maybe she seperated from Bart*

1901
Residents of a house 6 in Tinnock Upper (Ballynestragh, Wexford)


Neill Ellen 61 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Wexford - Cannot read - Widow -
Neill Thomas 38 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Wexford Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Neill Patrick 32 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Wexford Agricultural Labourer Read only - Not Married -
Neill Mary 22 Female Daughter Roman Catholic

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 10:48

Hi just one thing can I look up the prison records for bartholomew .

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 10:40

The birth cert will only give you the woman's name

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 10:39

Thanks Pam......I knew someone would have the definitive answer

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 10:39

Hi I think bartholomew swift born 1874 is Mary annes brother one I've missed looks like same mother do you think if I send off for his birth cert it may give me more info on Ellen and where she is from . Mary Ann called one off her daughters Ellen who we called Nellie the other poss after great grandfather mother Margaret .

Alemap

Alemap Report 18 Feb 2013 10:24

For Reggie,

Is it usual in Ireland to quote the MMN on baptisms if the parents are married?

The answer is yes.

Quite often the marriages produce many children, this gives rise to many cousins with the same name. Put together with many female names being Mary or Margaret, etc. It is possible for two males having the same name being married to two women with the same forename. So to differentiate families the mmn is usually used on all parish records (and conversations) even after marriage.

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 10:16

Ps marriage date Sunday 17th August 1890

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 10:11

Hi just had a look it says Mary Anne swift 20 Mary street wexford father bartholomew swift labourer .

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 10:05

I don't know...........I posted info found based on his YOB.

What does Mary Anne's marriage cert say about her father's occupation?

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 10:02

Hi is this bartholomew swift maryannes father .

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:57

1901

Residents of a house 5.2 in Keysers Lane (Wexford Town, Wexford)

Swift Bartholomew 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Castlebridge, Co Wexford Mason Cant read - Married -
Swift Thomas 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Wexford Town Mason Read and write

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:54

Is it usual in Ireland to quote the MMN on baptisms if the parents are married?

I have no experience of Irish research.........perhaps someone who has can answer that

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:51



name: Barthow Swift
also known as:
role of individual: Prisoner
event: Prison
event date: 1860
event place: Wexford, Wexford, Ireland
residence: Wexford
age: 17
birthplace:
estimated birth year: 1843
prison: Wexford
offence: Assault
victim:
victim's address:
where convicted:
item: 1
book: 1/40/1
county: Wexford
film number: 2357191
digital folder number: 004492777
image number: 00214
Citing this Record

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name: Bartholemew Swift
also known as:
role of individual: Prisoner
event: Prison
event date: 1871
event place: Wexford, Wexford, Ireland
residence: Wexford
age: 29
birthplace:
estimated birth year: 1842
prison: Wexford
offence: Stealing 6 Hens
victim:
victim's address:
where convicted:
item: 1
book: 1/40/1
county: Wexford
film number: 2357191
digital folder number: 004492777
image number: 00380
Citing this Record

blondedays

blondedays Report 18 Feb 2013 09:49

Hi I got Ellen's surname from the children's birh regestrations one is my great grandmother maryanne swift .

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:48

name: Bartholomew Swift
registration district: Swineford
event type: DEATHS
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1917
estimated birth year: 1842
age (at death): 75
mother's maiden name:
film number: 0101607
volume number: 4
page number: 228
digital folder number: 4201711
image number: 00214

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:47

For INFO only

name: Bartholomew Swift
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 04 Jun 1874
birthplace: Wexford, Ireland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Bartholomew Swift
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ellen Neill
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C70156-4
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 255905
reference number: v 9-2 p 1006

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Feb 2013 09:45

Have you looked for a marriage on the IGI?