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anyone have a sub to Scotslands People please?

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Margaret Report 19 Feb 2013 09:31

If so, would you be willing to see if you can find the birth of Jane Duncan born 1820 Glasgow in order to establish her parents ? Thank you for any help you can give.


Alemap Report 19 Feb 2013 10:01

There are no subs to Scotlands people, it is a pay to view site.

You maybe able to find the information on familysearch, which is free.


Margaret Report 19 Feb 2013 10:12

Sorry Pam - I thought Scotlands People was like ancestry and you needed a subscription. Thanks anyway.


Reggie Report 19 Feb 2013 10:14

Too early for a birth record.

The best you can hope for is her baptism.

Credits on SP are £7.00 for 30


GlasgowLass Report 19 Feb 2013 10:37

Hi Margaret,
SP can be searched for a potential baptism match and crossmatched with the IGI
There is no baptism for a JANE Duncan in Lanarkshire 1820 but possibly baptised as JEAN as these are interchangeable names.
You also need to be certain of the birth/baptism year

There are 2 Jean Duncans in Lanarkshire 1820

parentAlexander Duncan, Catharine Cook
nameJean Duncan
baptism/christening date30 Jan 1820
baptism/christening placeGORBALS,LANARK,SCOTLAND
birth date07 Jan 1820
father's nameAlexander Duncan
father's birthplace
father's age
mother's nameCatharine Cook

parentWilliam Duncan, Jean Forsythe
nameJean Duncan
baptism/christening date16 Jan 1820
baptism/christening place, CARMUNNOCK, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father's nameWilliam Duncan
mother's nameJean Forsythe
indexing project (batch) numberC11631-2
system originScotland-ODM
source film number1042970, 0102894

What do you know about your Jane?
Clues to parents are often reflected in her own children.
A first daughter is normally named for the maternal grandmother, and therefore if she was any of the above. we would expect Jane's 1st daughter to be named either Jean or Catherine



Malcolm Report 19 Feb 2013 13:21

It's not true that only Baptism records are available pre statutory in Scotland.

Alhough most OPR records do focus on the baptism, in very many cases the actual birth date is recorded also. In rural districts people would sometimes let baptisms go until doing several children at one time. In such cases the actual dates of birth may, or may not be shown. Beware of assuming children are twins or triplets in such cases, as I have!


GlasgowLass Report 19 Feb 2013 13:43

Hi Malcolm,
I think most of us have fallen victim to this at one time or another.

Having said that, there were only baptismal records pre 1855, but if we are lucky, the child's date of birth may be recorded.
Information was dependant on the record keeping of the Parish and varies from one to another.

I was looking at an OPR fiche ,when I spotted an entire family who were baptised on the same day. Not one of them had a DOB or an age included.
I dont expect the parents had sextuplets either!

There is one area where we might find a dob but not a baptism... these are invariably un- named, and unbaptised children who died in infancy.
The info is taken from Mortcloth records.
Both SP and FS use the mortcloth info and convert it to produce a birth and death record.
If you were to purchase these from SP, both will result in the same Mortcloth page.


Potty Report 19 Feb 2013 14:15

This refers to Margaret's other thread:

I have searched both scotlandspeople and familysearch but without further info, difficult to tell.

Margaret, in order to go back further, you will need to get Jane's marriage cert (from other thread - married to Robert Armstrong in Wetheral, Cumberland, 1844). This will give her father's name and occupation.


Margaret Report 19 Feb 2013 15:15

Thank you everyone for this information.