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Who is Olga Holgate?

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Dea Report 7 Apr 2013 10:19

Perhaps it might help us to find a connection if we had some details on your dad??

Dea x

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 22:15

argyllgran, jax, Janet & Dea, thanks for your help. :-)

Found Ernest & Alice's marriage on Lancashire opc....

Marriage: 21 Mar 1903 St James, Birch in Rusholme, Lancashire, England
Ernest Holgate - 24, Engraver, Bachelor, 12 Grantham Street Blackpool
Alice Dooley - 26, Spinster, Whitby Road
Groom's Father: Charles Holgate, Brewer
Bride's Father: Thomas Dooley, Farmer
Witness: Harold W. Crompton; Elna Hatten
Married by Banns by: F.G.Buller
Register: Marriages 1896 - 1921, Page 62, Entry 123
Source: Manchester Central Library

Ernest's baptism...

Baptism: 23 Oct 1878 St Mark, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Ernest Holgate - Son of Charles Holgate & Louisa Ellen
Abode: Fletcher St.
Occupation: Brewer
Baptised by: J. G. Doman, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1882, Page 118, Entry 944
Source: LDS Film 1966169

His parent's marriage..

Marriage: 11 Oct 1876 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Charles Holgate - 24, Brewer, Bachelor, 110 Hampden Street
Louisa Ellen Barlow - 23, Spinster, 159 Fletcher Street
Bride's Father: Richard Barlow, Spinner
Witness: John Wood; Emily Barlow; Richard Barlow
Married by Licence by: John Stott, Lecturer & Curate
Notes: ['Illegitimate' is written in the Groom's father's name column]
Register: Marriages 1875 - 1878, Page 96, Entry 191
Source: Original register at Manchester Library

None of the above names are in my tree. :-(

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 22:44

Alice Dooley with her family in 1881....

1881 England Census
Name: Alice Dooley
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Dooley
Mother's Name: Hannah Dooley
Gender: Female
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Romiley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Moss Acre (Farm)

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Marple
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3465
Folio: 128
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dooley 38.....Butley, Cheshire
Hannah Dooley 37.....Dean Row, Cheshire
James Dooley 17......Dean Row
Eliza Dooley 13....Romiley, Cheshire
Frances Dooley 9....Mellor, Derbyshire
John Dooley 8....Ardwick, Lancashire
Alice Dooley 4
Herbert L. Dooley 1.....Romiley, Cheshire

Found a birth for a Herbert Lawton Dooley, so I think this is Alice's parents marriage....

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
Dooley Thomas Stockport 8a 91
Lawton Hannah Stockport 8a 91

I've no Dooleys or Lawtons in my tree either.

Doesn't look like there is a family connection at all.

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 22:53


Thanks for the extra info from the passenger lists and for looking at Olga's home address and for her father's death reg.

Makes sense that she could afford the cruise if her father left her some money.

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 22:59


Thank you for looking the probate records.

£478 was probably more than enough to pay for a cruise in 1927 and I think you could buy quite a nice house for just over £2,000 in 1960.

As she was an only child it most likely all went to her?

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 23:09

Thanks Janet,

I know what you mean about not handing the book back in. But I don't think he would have kept it if it had just been his own school atlas.

He moved around a lot in his youth. His parents died before he married so the family home had gone.

I just can't see him carrying it around with him, unless it actually meant something.

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Apr 2013 23:31

Thanks Dea,

I came across the box whilst I was searching for my Dad's death certificate.

He was in the Royal Navy in WW2. I know he was on aircraft carriers as part of the Russian Convoys and went to Murmansk and McMurdo Sound, amonst other places. He was only 18 years old when he enlisted in 1942.

If he ever had his Navy documents they disappeared before he died. So I thought I would see if any records have been kept by the MOD and I need a copy of his death cert to send for these.

Maybe he went to Blackpool as part of his training???

Or he just met her on a day out???

I'll probably never know. :-D