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Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 16:29

I am struggling to find my gt gt grandma's birthdate and wondered if it would be on her death certificate. She died in the early 1930's, I do have the actual date she died . Can anyone help?? Thank-you


jax Report 18 Apr 2013 16:32

Date of birth was not added to death certs until 1969

What was her name please? where and when approx born


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 16:34

She was Ann O'Connor /Connors.
I have all census records and she has slightly different ages!!
I know her Father was Michael, but no idea who her mother was.
It was a very common name in Liverpool.
I think she would have been born late 1852 or early 1853. Possibly Huyton??


Vera Report 18 Apr 2013 16:44

Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
POOLE, William Head Married M 50 1811 Dock Labourer
Wales VIEW
POOLE, Ann Wife F 47 1814
Ireland VIEW
POOLE, Mary Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
POOLE, William Son M 9 1852 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
CONNOR, Michael Lodger Widower M 40 1821 Dock Labourer
Ireland VIEW
CONNOR, Ann Lodger F 7 1854 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Mary Lodger Orphan F 5 1856
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
Piece: 2657
Folio: 135
Page: 4
Registration District: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 36, Hedley Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

Regards Vera


brummiejan Report 18 Apr 2013 16:47

I am guessing you have her marriage cert - if so, can you please say what her father's occupation was, names of witnesses and the address she gave?


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 16:49

Hi Vera,
that is the one I think could be Ann and her Father Michael, but I cannot be sure, as Connor is such a common name and I don't have any more info on Michael except that he was born in Ireland.

I know that Michael was a Stoker on a ship at some point.


jax Report 18 Apr 2013 16:50

Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
about Ann Connor
Name: Ann Connor
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1853
Baptism Date: 20 Mar 1853
Parish: St Alban's Church
Father's Name: Michael Connor
Mother's Name: Jane Connor


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 16:50

Hi Jan hang on a mo, will get the details


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 16:58

Hi Jan , Can't be;ieve I cant find certificate!! date was 8/11/1875 At St William Catholic Chapel, Over Darwen. Blackburn Lancs. Witnesses were Richard Marsh and his wife Mary. Richard was Edward's brother, they were over there to work.


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 17:01

Jax. Thank-you for that info, can try and find a marriage for Ann's parents now. I know that Ann's mother died either in childbirth or not long afterwards, so I will try for their marriage and then her Mothers death, see if I can tie them in.


jax Report 18 Apr 2013 17:05

Possable death for a Jane

Deaths Mar 1854 (>99%)

Connor Jane Liverpool 8b 121


Infact there are quite a few Jane connor deaths but thats the nearest to the birth of Ann


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 17:12

Thanks Jax.
So many possibilities, its very difficult which way to go.
I can't even find a marriage for a Michael Connor/Connors/O'Connor to Jane in the year or so before Ann's birth!!


Vera Report 18 Apr 2013 17:20

Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)

Connor Michael Haslingden 8e 172
CURWEN Jane Fylde 8e 172

This seems to be the only one I can find but I know Ann was born 1853.....but thought I would show you.

Regards Vera


jax Report 18 Apr 2013 17:24

As Michael was Irish maybe they married there?


Teresa Report 18 Apr 2013 17:29

Thank you to everyone who has helped me today.
Jax, I did wonder about them getting married in Ireland, but was hoping not!!
Thanks again to everyone x


brummiejan Report 18 Apr 2013 17:41

Them 1871?? Michael's job is fireman in gas 'something', maybe fits with stoker?

1871 England Census
Name: Ann Connor
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
[Abt 1854]
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Michael Connor
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin

Michael Connor 58
Ann Connor 19
Mary Murphy 15 Granddaughter

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Apr 2013 18:19

I read that as ...'Fireman in gas works'...which could fit the quest ?



Teresa Report 20 Apr 2013 17:55

Hi Jan and Gwyn.
This does look like my family, on her marriage certificate in 1875 Ann says she is 22yrs old.
The Mary Murphy 15 as granddaughter looks to be same one as 5yr old Orphan, lodger in the 1861, wonder if they sort of adopted her!!
She couldn't really be Michael's granddaughter and I have never heard of her mentioned in the family!!
Another mystery.
Thanks very much Teresa.


brummiejan Report 20 Apr 2013 20:15

Have you found the marriage cert yet? Just wondering if you have an address for Ann.


brummiejan Report 20 Apr 2013 20:30

It's very tricky as you say, with such a common name, and even if him this doesn't help too much - occupation is dock labourer:

1851 England Census
Name: Michael Comar
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St George

Patrick Carr 46
Jane Carr 46
Bridget Beatley 8
Mary Sealy 38
Richard Heykes 20
Joseph Mallin 26
Patrick Mc Guire 56
Michael Comar 30
Michael Comar 80