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Louise Report 29 Apr 2013 13:22

My birth mother was Nora Isabella Griffin(born Morrison}1927 Chorlton,she was married to Frederick Finney for a while,but do not know where the name Griffin came from.Her parents were Ivy Irene Morrison(formerly Currie} and Patrick Morrison,but I can only find Ivy Irene Rylance married to Patrick Morrison,also can not find her Grandparents.I was born in Warrington in 1950 but I think everyone else is from Chorlton,Manchester. :-(

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Reggie Report 29 Apr 2013 13:29

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1925

MORRISON Patrick RYLANCE Ivy Irene Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/328/168

Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Morrison Nora I Currie Manchester S. 8d 221

Look for a previous marriage for the mother..................

To trace the previous generation, buy the marriage cert,......for names of both fathers and, of course, the ages of the couple


Reggie Report 29 Apr 2013 13:32

Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Finney Frederick Morrison Manchester 10e 828
Morrison Nora I Finney Manchester 10e 828


Reggie Report 29 Apr 2013 13:45

have you considered that Ivy Irene may have been born outside of England/Wales?


Louise Report 29 Apr 2013 14:19

Thank you Reggie,not sure why my Grandmother put her maiden name as Currie on the birth certificate if her name was Currie.


Penny Report 29 Apr 2013 14:35

Currie because maybe she was born before her mother married patrick Morrison.


Reggie Report 29 Apr 2013 14:38

Not sure what you mean..............

The maiden name of a woman is always recorded on the index of her child's birth

Do you have Nora's actual birth cert?

If so, what is the EXACT wording?

The birth is two years after the possible marriage


Fredk Report 29 Apr 2013 14:40

For information

Birth Record
Name Nora I Morrison
Year of Registration 1927
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Manchester South
Registration County Lancashire
Mother's maiden name Currie
Volume Number 8D
Volume Page 221


Reggie Report 29 Apr 2013 14:41

Is your father named on your birth cert?

I posted your mother's birth reg'n early in this thread


Potty Report 29 Apr 2013 14:48

No birth coming up or Ivy Irene Currie but there is one for Ivy Irene Rylance:

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)

Rylance Ivy Irene Chorlton 8c 848


Louise Report 1 May 2013 12:56

Think Ivy Irene must have been born before her mother(Isabella ?)was Mr Currie (could be Charles) and Ivy took his name,that is why she put Currie not Rylance as her maiden name on Nora Isabella birth cert.Just wish I knew if I had a blood relative living.My fathers name is not on my birth cert.only says my mother was Nora Isabella Griffin formerly Morrison.


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:11

How much research have you done?

CURRIE Charles RYLANCE Isabella Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/41/4
CURRIE Charles SMITH Isabella Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/41/4
RYLANCE Isabella CURRIE Charles Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/41/4
SMITH Isabella CURRIE Charles Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:14

1911 census

Person: RYLANCE, Isabella

Address: 6 Albert Avenue Gorton

RYLANCE, Edwin Head Married M 31 1880 Joiner House Northwich VIEW
RYLANCE, Isabella Wife Married10 years F 31 1880 Lancaster VIEW
RYLANCE, Ivy Irene Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Manchester VIEW
RICHARDSON, Florence Visitor Single F 12 1899 School Manchester


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:15

Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)

Rylance Edwin Lancaster 8e 1493
Smith Isabella Lancaster 8e 1493


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:17

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
RYLANCE Edwin Northwich 8a 269

Deaths Mar 1944 (>99%)
Rylance Edwin 63 Heywood 8c 597


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:18

So Ivy was born as Rylance, but chose to use the name Currie on her daughter's birth cert, for some unfathomable reason


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:20

Ivy's father was from a large family.............try inputting any, or all, of them in 'search all trees'

1891 census
Person: RYLANCE, Edwin

Address: 1, Witton Yard, Tabley Street, Witton Cum Twambrooks, Northwich

RYLANCE, James Head Married M 33 1858 Bookkeeper
Wigan, Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Jane E Wife Married F 34 1857
Northwich, Cheshire VIEW
RYLANCE, Edwin Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Northwich, Cheshire VIEW
RYLANCE, John Rd Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Eccles, Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, James A Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Felling, County Durham VIEW
RYLANCE, Eva Daughter F 4 1887
Sunderland, County Durham VIEW
RYLANCE, Elizabeth A Daughter F 3 1888
Barley, Yorkshire VIEW
RYLANCE, Edith E Daughter F 1 1890
Northwich, Cheshire


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:23

1901 census

Person: SMITH, Isabella

Address: 44, Greaves (Lower Greaves), Lancaster, Town

RILEY, Elizabeth Head Widow F 73 1828 Living On Own Means
Dent, Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Isabella Servant Single F 20 1881 General (Domestic)
Lancaster, Lancashire


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:25

1891 census
Person: SMITH, Isabella

Address: 25, Ripley Street, Lancaster

SMITH, Henry Head Married M 43 1848 Excavator
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, Sarah Wife Married F 41 1850 Cotton Operative
Leeds, Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary J Daughter F 17 1874 Cotton Operative
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, Hannah Daughter F 15 1876
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, James Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, Isabella Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Moses Lodger Single M 35 1856 Excavator
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
STRETTON, James Lodger Single M 40 1851 Pavior
Liverpool, Lancashire


Reggie Report 1 May 2013 13:28

1911 census

Person: RYLANCE, John Richard

Address: 20 St Philips Road Gorton

RYLANCE, John Richard Head Married M 29 1882 Drapery Warehouse Eccles Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Emily Ann Wife Married6 years F 28 1883 Halifax Yorkshire VIEW
RYLANCE, Marion Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Gorton Lancashire VIEW
ROGERSON, Elizabeth Ellen Aunt Married12 years F 32 1879 Northwich Cheshire VIEW

RG number: RG14


Deaths Jun 1954 (>99%)

Rylance John R 72 Stockport 10a 488