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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 May 2013 15:47

Thought I might add a post-em to the Free BMD entries in case anyone else has the same quandary about who married who.

EDIT: I've added details of the relevant marriage to each bride and groom on the entries on FreeBMD, though it will take up to 24hrs for them to show up.

However I noticed there was already a post-em against Rosina Hale, wrongly linking her to William Llewellyn (but with no actual details) !!! :-0

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 May 2013 16:07

Yeah I think that might have been me! When I went down the wrong alley!! And no details because it was my first try and I didn't really know what I was doing

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 May 2013 16:17

At least you were trying to be helpful :-)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 May 2013 16:35

You mentioned these marriages, didn't know if you had the actual dates or just the GRO refs. I can't find a full record for Clara Mitchell and Thomas Povall, just the GRO ref.

Grooms Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms First Name: William
Grooms Fathers First Name: William
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: 23
Brides Last Name: Mitchell
Brides First Name: Florence Helena
Brides Fathers First Name: Hezekiah
Brides Fathers Last Name: Mitchell
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: 29
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Basaleg
Marriage Year: 1909
Marriage Month: Jun
Marriage Day: 5
Page: 20
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Grooms Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms First Name: Louis
Grooms Fathers First Name: William
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: 27
Brides Last Name: Povall
Brides First Name: Florence Helena Eliza
Brides Fathers First Name: Thomas
Brides Fathers Last Name: Povall
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: 20
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Llangattock Juxta Caerleon
Marriage Year: 1916
Marriage Month: Mar
Marriage Day: 29
Page: 220
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 May 2013 18:24

Just to say I must be going senile..... ;-)

Entering up the marriage Kucinta mailed me on my spreadsheet and Rosina auto-filled. I have bought the stupid certificate aaaaaaagghhhhhhhhh!!!!!

But thanks anyway everyone for the help particularly the certs for Louis/Leiw and William and their Florence Helenas! :-D

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 May 2013 20:47

Kucinta...from FMP...with the last of my pay to view credits!!! can you find an image??

Civil registration event: Marriage

Name: POVALL, ThomasRegistration district: [?] Newport (Monmouthshire) County: MonmouthshireYear of registration: 1893Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name Not available before 1912Volume no: [?] 11A Page no: [?] 284
MarriageFinder™: [?] Thomas Povall married one of the following people Transcript
UNDERWOOD, Kate
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MITCHELL, Clara
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PARRY, George Samuel J
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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 6 May 2013 00:11

Sorry - no joy!

I'd tried previously to find the marriage image for Thomas and Clara, but it's not coming up on the Parish Records Collection1538-2005 on fmp, as the others I sent you did.

Maybe they didn't marry in church?

EDIT: The 'view' on the record you posted for Clara and Thomas, just links to an image of the printed GRO index , not to an image of the marriage register.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 6 May 2013 00:14

BTW,

You mentioned Thomas Marchant Llewellyn and Sarah Ann (images pmed):


Grooms Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms First Name: Thomas Marchant
Grooms Fathers First Name: Lewis
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: 22
Brides Last Name: Osborne
Brides First Name: Sarah Ann
Brides Fathers First Name: David
Brides Fathers Last Name: Osborne
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: 23
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Newport, Holy Trinity
Marriage Year: 1883
Marriage Month: Aug
Marriage Day: 13
Page: 80
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

also:

Grooms Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms First Name: Thomas Marchant
Grooms Fathers First Name: Lewis
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Llewellyn
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: 33
Brides Last Name: Powell
Brides First Name: Alice
Brides Fathers First Name: Benjamin
Brides Fathers Last Name: Powell
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: 23
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Newport, Holy Trinity
Marriage Year: 1894
Marriage Month: Oct
Marriage Day: 22
Page: 79
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

mgnv

mgnv Report 6 May 2013 05:47

Kucinta's find is also available on FS, but with distressingly fewer details - and you need an FMP sub to see the image.

Name: William Llewellyn
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Jun 1887
Event Place: Newport, Holy Trinity, Monmouthshire, Wales
Age: 20
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Spouse's Name: Rosina Bryan
GS Film number: 2411549
Digital Folder Number: 004393940
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCT2-Y6G

I haven't looked at any other Welsh marrs, but at least it would resolve who wed whom for some of them via lookups at
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

Although it just covers (I think six of the old) northern counties,
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/
can resolve both church and non-church marrs too. Sometimes the marr ref is to a page #, rather than an entry #, but these can be useful when the GRO pages aren't aligned with the local register's pages. Also, sometimes the local index gives an age for deaths pre-1866, and, at least in Anglesey, they give the mum's maiden surname on pre-1911 births. Not all church, etc msrr rego's, nor all subdistrict B & D regos have been locally indexed, though.