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1901 and 1911 Lookup Please.

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MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 20:39

Can some kind person do me a kindness please. I am still trying to find my elusive gt.grandmother Sarah Ann Cooper b. 1873 Islington.

As you can imagine this is a very common name, and the permutations are endless.

However, I THINK she married a Joseph Fluin b. 1865. They married in Islington in 1892.

Can someone please look on the 1901 and 1911 Census returns [presumably Islington] to see if any of the dates match?

Thank you.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 20:45

Which child would be your ancestor?



1901 England Census
about Joseph Fluiss
Name: Joseph Fluiss
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Fluiss
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 173
Folio: 89
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Fluiss 36
Sarah Fluiss 28
Charles Fluiss 9
Edith Fluiss 7
Joseph Fluiss 5
Rosina Fluiss 3
Henry Fluiss 7 Months




Andy

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 20:50

Hello Andy,

Could well be, this lady seems to be shrouded in mystery. I have had one version of events about her, but they turned out to be not true.

Do you have an address for the 1901 Census, then I will be able to narrow it down a bit. She was living at Slaney Place in 1881 with her parents.

Any joy with the 1911 please?

best wishes

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 20:56

1901 address looks like 5 James Street.

No luck 1911 yet.

Which of their children would be your ancestor?

Andy

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:00

Oh sorry Andy, I waffled on and did not answer your question!

My ancestor is the mother Sarah. She had a child in 1891 out of wedlock, and left him with her parents, then married and had a new family.

Strangely, she named her first born son and her eldest son in her new family the same................Charles!!

Thanks for your help so far.

Amanda,

Amanda, Report 9 May 2013 21:05

one might be this one?

Possible 1911 FLUIN, Rose aged 13

Address:40 Mertell Road Dulwich
Industrial School, Inmate, looks like a Girls Home

Kind regards
Amanda

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:07

Thank you Fredk, but Cooper was Sarah's maiden name.

She married a Joseph Fluin/Fluiss, and I think lived in Islington.

But thank you for looking up the 1911 for me.

Cheers.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 21:09

Looks like her death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Fluin Sarah 34 Islington 1b 123


Andy

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:09

Thank you Amanda, that may well be the daughter.

Any idea of the whereabouts of Sarah and Joseph the parents?

Best wishes

Fredk

Fredk Report 9 May 2013 21:11

Have removed it as it does not apply

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:13

Thank you for taking the time to look up 1911 nevertheless, Fredk.

Much appreciated, thank you for your time.

best wishes.

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:16

Thank you Andy, it may well be Sarah's death.

What a sad little life she had.............

thanks again.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 21:17

No sign of Joseph after 1901

Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 May 2013 21:19

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(some Fluin Burials on above)

Chris :)


Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
Fluim Joseph 42 Islington 1b 184

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 May 2013 21:21

This is the fmp version of the 1901.


1901 census transcription details for: 5, James Street, Islington
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 173
Folio: 89
Page: 22
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District: Lower Holloway
Parish: Islington
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, James Street, Islington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FLUIRE, Joseph Head Married M 36 1865 Bricklayers Labourer
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Sarah Wife Married F 28 1873 Charwoman
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Charles Son Single M 9 1892
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Edith Daughter Single F 7 1894
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Joseph Son Single M 5 1896
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Rosina Daughter Single F 3 1898
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Henry Son Single M 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Islington, London

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 May 2013 21:25

??

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1906
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 42
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 184


Son Joseph.


Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 29
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 200


Daughter Edith.

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Edith
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 19
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 176

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 9 May 2013 21:31

Oooh thank you all. I have been on bmd and deceasedonline while you have all been busy replying to me.

I see that Joseph and Sarah died within 3 months of each other. Was 1906 the height of the influenza epidemic? Maybe that accounts for the daughter being in some kind of institution?

I have gained more info tonight, than in the last 5 years searching. Thank you all very much for your time and efforts, very much appreciated.

Best wishes
Madeleine

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 22:01

According to the 1901 census, Charles Fluin (Transcribed as Fluiss/Fluire) was born in 1892.

I can't see a birth registered for him but wondering about this.....

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Spouse name: Emma Tree
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 337

If he was born in 1892........he would have been 16 when he married?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 22:11

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Year: 1918
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington

With Emma Fluin

Res: 17 Caledonia Street

With them are.......

Wood Charles Walter
Wood Fanny Matilda
Wood George Frederick


Amanda,

Amanda, Report 9 May 2013 22:38

Henry 1911 possible
RG14PN841 RD10 SD3 ED21 SN1
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District:Tollington
Parish:Islington
Address:
Andover Row Hornsey Road Tollington Park London N
County: London
FLUEN, Harry
Inmate M aged 9 1902, School
Birthplace Unknown