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Yes Andrew i think you are right.

That would tie in with this one born 1880ish.......

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: FLUIN, Charles
Address: 65 Wicklow Street St Pancras WC

FLUIN, Charles Father Married M 31 1880 Coal Porter England VIEW
FLUIN, Emma Wife Married6 years F 29 1882 St Pancras VIEW
FLUIN, Charles Son M 4 1907 St Pancras VIEW
FLUIN, Alfred Son M 2 1909 St Pancras Middlesex VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 708
Reference: RG14PN708 RG78PN24 RD9 SD2 ED25 SN197
Registration District: St Pancras
Sub District: South St Pancras
Enumeration District: 25
Parish: St Pancras
Address: 65 Wicklow Street St Pancras WC
County: London


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b
Page: 341

At least we can rule that one out!

Possible 1911
FLUIN, Joseph b 1896 place of birth Not Known

Institution: Gravesend Barracks Including Military Hospital, GRAVESEND AND MILTON UNION WORKHOUSE

This is the WW1 record for the Charles who married Emma Tree.

It would seem to confirm not the Charles born 1891

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age at enlistment: 32
Residence: 26 Sidmouth St, London WC
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 9313
Regiment Name: Middlesex Regt
Number of images: 15

also

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 29
Birth Parish: St Pancras
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 2334
Regiment Name: Kings Royal Rifle Corps
Number of images: 8



Andy

Henry 1911 possible
RG14PN841 RD10 SD3 ED21 SN1
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District:Tollington
Parish:Islington
Address:
Andover Row Hornsey Road Tollington Park London N
County: London
FLUEN, Harry
Inmate M aged 9 1902, School
Birthplace Unknown

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Year: 1918
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington

With Emma Fluin

Res: 17 Caledonia Street

With them are.......

Wood Charles Walter
Wood Fanny Matilda
Wood George Frederick

According to the 1901 census, Charles Fluin (Transcribed as Fluiss/Fluire) was born in 1892.

I can't see a birth registered for him but wondering about this.....

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Spouse name: Emma Tree
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 337

If he was born in 1892........he would have been 16 when he married?

Oooh thank you all. I have been on bmd and deceasedonline while you have all been busy replying to me.

I see that Joseph and Sarah died within 3 months of each other. Was 1906 the height of the influenza epidemic? Maybe that accounts for the daughter being in some kind of institution?

I have gained more info tonight, than in the last 5 years searching. Thank you all very much for your time and efforts, very much appreciated.

Best wishes
Madeleine

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Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1906
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 42
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 184


Son Joseph.


Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 29
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 200


Daughter Edith.

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Edith
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 19
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 176

This is the fmp version of the 1901.


1901 census transcription details for: 5, James Street, Islington
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 173
Folio: 89
Page: 22
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District: Lower Holloway
Parish: Islington
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, James Street, Islington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FLUIRE, Joseph Head Married M 36 1865 Bricklayers Labourer
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Sarah Wife Married F 28 1873 Charwoman
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Charles Son Single M 9 1892
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Edith Daughter Single F 7 1894
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Joseph Son Single M 5 1896
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Rosina Daughter Single F 3 1898
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Henry Son Single M 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Islington, London

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(some Fluin Burials on above)

Chris :)


Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Fluim Joseph 42 Islington 1b 184

No sign of Joseph after 1901

Andy

Thank you Andy, it may well be Sarah's death.

What a sad little life she had.............

thanks again.

Thank you for taking the time to look up 1911 nevertheless, Fredk.

Much appreciated, thank you for your time.

best wishes.

Have removed it as it does not apply

Thank you Amanda, that may well be the daughter.

Any idea of the whereabouts of Sarah and Joseph the parents?

Best wishes

Looks like her death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Fluin Sarah 34 Islington 1b 123


Andy

Thank you Fredk, but Cooper was Sarah's maiden name.

She married a Joseph Fluin/Fluiss, and I think lived in Islington.

But thank you for looking up the 1911 for me.

Cheers.

one might be this one?

Possible 1911 FLUIN, Rose aged 13

Address:40 Mertell Road Dulwich
Industrial School, Inmate, looks like a Girls Home

Kind regards
Amanda

Oh sorry Andy, I waffled on and did not answer your question!

My ancestor is the mother Sarah. She had a child in 1891 out of wedlock, and left him with her parents, then married and had a new family.

Strangely, she named her first born son and her eldest son in her new family the same................Charles!!

Thanks for your help so far.