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looking for marriage poss south africa

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 15:21

Hi looking for a marriage for a Richard A Prior - family story tells of him going to south africa after 1936 worked a music critic on a Newspaper. not sure if he married but assumed he did and therefore possible children. really stuck on this have tried so many differnet ways to find him but have drawn a blank on them all, any help deeply appreciated.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 15:30

When and where was he born?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 15:34

His birth record is 1919 weymouth Q3

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:49

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Prior Richard A Hanson Weymouth 5a 416

...............mother's maiden name is Hanson, so, this may be him ?


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Richard Prior
Name: Richard Prior
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1920
Departure Date: 26 Apr 1924
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Malta
Ship Name: Morvada
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Morvada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: British India Shipping and Navigation Company, Limited
Official Number: 136319
Master: T L Mills

Travelling with:-
Mrs. Ida Prior
Address:- 24 Bradford Road, Southsea

and:- Pauline Prior aged 2yrs


Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Prior Pauline I Hanson Portsmouth 2b 914

Was his mother's name Ida?

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:51

Only two marriages Prior to Hanson including this one:-

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Hanson Ada Prior Newcastle T. 10b 287
Prior Richard W Hanson Newcastle T. 10b 287

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:59

His father?

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
PRIOR Richard William C Bromley 2a 422
The district Bromley spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London and Kent

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Richard W C Prior
Name: Richard W C Prior
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 48
Port of Departure: San Antonio, Chile
Arrival Date: 25 May 1936
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ports of Voyage: Liverpool
[Talcahuano]
[Callao]
Ship Name: Orduna
Search Ship Database: View the 'Orduna' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Pacific Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 135539

Occupation:- Naval
Address:- 37 Ferndale Road, Weymouth

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 17:08

Yes Catherine you have the right family - wow I had never found those before. It is their son Richard I am looking for and he could have only left the UK after 1936 when his illegitamate son was born. I can't find any trace of him after that. I thought he might have been in the merchant navy as we have a photo of him in uniform, but I haven't found any trace of that either. andhe was definately in south africa but I have found no trace of that either.

the entry you found for Richard W C Prior was his father who was in the navy. the firs one is his wife with their youngest daughter Pauline - this if fabuous information that I have never seen thank you so much.

Just seen the date his dad, Richard W C arrived back hmmm wonder if it is coneceted with the Richard I am looking for his son (also Richard) was born in the August!

:-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 17:13

If his father was in the navy, then this may also be relevant:-

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Richard Prior
Name: Richard Prior
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 27
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 17 Apr 1915
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Suez]
Ship Name: Medina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Medina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 131849

Occupation:- Royal Navy
Coming back from China.

.........................................................

and also:-

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Richard William Prior
Name: Richard William Prior
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 12 May 1934
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Lisbon, Portugal
Ship Name: Highland Patriot
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Highland Patriot' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Lines Limited
Official Number: 161883
Master: R H Robinson
Heading for:- Buenos Aires

Occupation:- Columbian Navy A.B.

.............so if this is his father and the family followed him around the world, then your man could have married anywhere!

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 17:24

just for ref:-

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mrs Ida Prior
Name: Mrs Ida Prior
Gender: Female
Age: 29

xxxx Birth Date: abt 1895

Departure Date: 26 Apr 1924
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Malta
Ship Name: Morvada
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Morvada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: British India Shipping and Navigation Company, Limited
Official Number: 136319
Master: T L Mills


Have had a look for the family coming back into England, but can't see any of them?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 17:54

He was only 17 when his girlfriend became pregnant. his father RWC was retired by then and eventually adopted the Richard I am looking for and brougt him up with his aunty pauline . we think the Richard I am looking for was kind of sent off to make his fortune which is where I have lost rack of him. I don't think he returned home we only have this small snippet that he becam a music critic on one of the South African newspapers ....:(

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jun 2013 12:20

Do you have an exact date of birth for him please?

Wondering about this man

Name: Richard A. Prior
SSN: 592-54-9868
Last Residence: 32082 Ponte Vedra Beach, Saint Johns, Florida, United States of America
Born: 1 Aug 1919
Died: 22 Sep 1995
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (1987)

Name: Richard A Prior
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1919
Address: 501 Alabama Ave, Fort Lauderdale, FL, 33312-1957



What was his middle name please? Could he have been known by that to avoid confusion with his father?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 3 Jun 2013 21:17

I, not sure am waiting for his birth cert. but it was quarter 3 1919 his middle name is Anthony. I never thought of him being in america, i suppose because of the family telling me he went to south africa - nothing to have stopped him doing both!

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jun 2013 21:58

Somebody on ancestry has this:-

Richard A Prior
1919
Sep
Weymouth, Wiltshire
1 source citation

parents:-
Richard William Charles Prior 1887 – 1967
Ada Hanson 1895 – 1969

Marriage to Ada Susannah Taylor
1935
ABT Age: 16
Death 1995
ABT Age: 76


Ada :- Birth 7 APR 1919 in 65 Newcome Road, Kingston Portsmouth
Death 19 OCT 1995 in West Glamorgan

............. went on to marry:-

Marriage to Edward James Rickard

1941 8 Sep
Age: 22
Registry Office Islington

..............and they had two children.

So it does give his date of death as 1995 which fits with american record.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 19:19

The birth certificate arrived today

Richard Arthur Prior b 01.08.1919 weymouth

going to look at that american death record

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2013 20:02

Hi Jennifer - I thought that earlier you had said his middle name was Anthony? Does all the other info on the birth certificate match up?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 20:27

I had assumed it was anthony (it is a family name) all I had was A as a middle initial.

The Birth Cert is the right one I'm 100% sure right parents. just goes to show you should never make asumptions!

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Jun 2013 22:05

Hi Jennifer,
So are the parents definately Richard William Prior and Ada (mmn. Hanson)?
Catherine

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 23:43

Yes absolute positive Catherine. can anyone see any more information on rootgetherers post as it is the right name and DOB ?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Jun 2013 16:18

This is the only other reference I can find for him.

Name: Richard A Prior
Address: 2323 Latrium Cir N # L, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2925 (1990)
[2772 Bordeaux CT, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2901 (1990)]

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Jun 2013 09:03

Rootgatherer,
Any chance of finding out who else was living at that address?
If there were others with the name of Prior, then maybe they were related.