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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jun 2013 09:22

Name Prior, Richard William Charles
Official Number: 229401
Place of Birth: Bromley, Kent
Date of Birth: 25 December 1887

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-seamen.htm

(just adding above link, if you want above Record, £3.36 to download)

Chris :)

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Jun 2013 13:13

Just found this???

Richard Arthur Prior, "Florida, Marriage Index, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001"
Nom: Richard Arthur Prior
Préfixe du nom:
Suffixe:
Type d'événement: Marriage
Date de l'événement: 10 Nov 1984
Lieu de l'événement: St. Johns, Florida, United States
Sexe: Male
Race: White
Nom du conjoint:
Tome: 5737
Numéro de certificat: 109235


"Florida, Marriage Index, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VJ79-5J4 : accessed 12 Jun 2013), Richard Arthur Prior and , 1984.

................but doesn't give conjoint's name.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 12 Jun 2013 17:48

Hi Catherine,

1984 hmmm

if he ws born i 1919 that would make him 65 when he married, not beyond the realms of possibility I know.

And is it the same one as in the death record you found earlier? or it maybe it's a son's marriage. so many unanswered questions...

thanks for you efforts Catherine much appreciated

this has been bugging me for acouple of years and I just don't seem to be able to resolve it.

jenny

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 19:46

This is from Ancestry's info on how to obtain Florida marriage certificates:

"Copies of marriage records are available through the Florida Department of Health. They maintain marriage records beginning in January 1927. For information about how to obtain a copy, please visit their website (www.doh.state.fl.us). Records of marriages occurring before 1927 must be obtained from the clerk of the circuit court of the county in which the marriage license was issued.

Many of these marriages may also be available on microfilm at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. These microfilms can be loaned out to thousands of local Family History Centers throughout the world."

You could have a look at this link to see about ordering the certificate:
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/Planning_eval/Vital_Statistics/index.html

You could always use their "Contact Us" page to email them with an enquiry.

Alternately, you could use this link to find your nearest LDS Family History Centre and see if they can get the microfilm for you.
https://familysearch.org/locations/centerlocator

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 12 Jun 2013 22:24

Thank you Marie Celeste. I have a cousin in Florida I might see if she can do me a wee favour - but I will check out the websites.

Thank you

Jenny

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 22:38

You're welcome Jenny - do let us know if you get any further.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Jun 2013 23:29

Possible the spouse for the marriage from Ancestry

Madeleine Learch
County of Marriage: St. Johns
Maiden Name: Noxon
Gender: Female
Race: White
Volume: 5737
Certificate: St. Johns&rank=0">109235 <<<<< same cert number
Source: Florida Department of Health

Also double entered with surname the same as the maiden name, suggesting that this was not her first marriage

Madeleine Learch 10 Nov 1984 St. Johns
Madeleine Noxon 10 Nov 1984 St Johns

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 23:39

A possibility:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Madelaine Noxon
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1923
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: New Rochelle, Westchester, New York
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles H Noxon
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Name: Mildred E Noxon
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Rent/home value: $20,000
Parents' birthplace: both New York

Household Members:
Name Age
Charles H Noxon 38 - Claims Adjustor for an Insurance Company
Mildred E Noxon 36
Mildred A Noxon 10
Madelaine Noxon 7
Rosalin Noxon 3 [3 11/12]
Phyllis Lanzer 65 - servant

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Jun 2013 23:52

Picking this 1990 address posted earlier by rootgatherer.
2772 Bordeaux CT, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2901

The follow surnames as Learch are also listed for the period 1935-1993, suggesting Madeleine's children from her first marriage

Madeleine Learch
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1922
Address: 2772 Bordeaux CT, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2901

Name: Strayer S Learch
Birth: (dd) Aug 1948
Residence: 1935-1993 - Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

Name: Alan N Learch
Birth: (dd) Jan 1943
Residence: 1935-1993 - Ponte Vedra, FL

Name: Sharon S Learch
Birth: (dd) Aug 1948
Residence: 1935-1993 - Ponte Vedra, FL

Sharon and Strayer have the same dob.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 23:52

This could be Madeleine with first husband:

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Arnold S Learch
Name: Arnold S Learch
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1967
Street Address: 7 Scout Trail
Residence Place: Darien, Connecticut
Spouse: Madeline N Learch
Publication Title: Darien, Connecticut, City Directory, 1967

A general manager at Fairfield Firestone, 180 Noroton Avenue

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 23:54

Death of her husband:

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Arnold Learch
Name: Arnold Learch
SSN: 080-10-1497
Last Residence: 06820 Darien, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States of America
Born: 11 Sep 1916
Last Benefit: 06820 Darien, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States of America
Died: Jan 1978
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Jun 2013 00:04

Alan N Learch appears to be still active in Florida.

If you Google him there could be ways to make contact .....

There's a phone number on here
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Alan-N-Learch/Ponte-Vedra-Beach-FL/3cfp0ri

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jun 2013 00:13

Hmm- looking at the white pages entry for Alan, an associated name is Sharon Strayer Learch.

Could Sharon S Learch and Strayer S Learch as per the US public indexes (addresses) be the same person rather than twins?

Irrelevant really, but intriguing!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Jun 2013 00:26

I thought that too DET.

Searches for Strayer S Learch just seem to fetch up Sharon Strayer Learch so perhaps they're one and the same.

Seeing as Jenny has a cousin in Florida perhaps she could get them to ring that number?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 15 Jun 2013 21:21

Det & MarieCeleste,

Thank you so much for this. I'm going to try and follow this up

1. I need to confirm that this Richard Arthur Prior and mine are one and the same
2. Find out how & when he ended up in the states

all very curious.... will let you know if I get any where

Do death Certs in USA have place of birth on them ?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 15 Jun 2013 21:31

I have just found Alan Noxon Learch on Face Book . and sent him a message. I hope he is the right one and maybe my long search will be over

Jenny

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 15 Jun 2013 21:54

Fingers crossed that Alan has some information to help you.

Earlier Florida DC do have the place of births, but this was mid 20th century - no idea about more recent ones. Of course, the information given is only as good as the informant's knowledge.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2013 22:57

Jenny, please come back and let us know the outcome if you hear from Alan.

Wishing you the best of luck.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 16 Jun 2013 12:06

Doing a bit more digging and found the following Divorce for an Richard Arthur Prior - Duval Florida gives a spouse name ony as Valrie.

can anyone check as to date or surname for this?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2013 14:13

Florida, Divorce Index, 1927-2001 about Richard Arthur Prior

Name: Richard Arthur Prior
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Valerie
Divorce Date: 12 Jun 1990
County: Duval
Certificate Number: 035041

Valerie would have the same surname as Richard on the divorce petition.