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John

John Report 3 Jul 2013 04:08

Does anyone have any records of George born 1910. Born in Lancaster or Leigh Lancashire'
John

Astra

Astra Report 3 Jul 2013 06:39

Welcome to the boards John. You need to tell us everything you know about George to give us a better idea of who we are looking for.

This one?

1911 census transcription details for: 40 Milton St Leigh Lancashire

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN23214 RG78PN1357 RD460 SD3 ED6 SN258
Reg. District: Leigh
Sub District: Leigh
Parish: Leigh
Enum. District: 6
Address: 40 Milton St Leigh Lancashire
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LANCASTER, George Head Married M 40 1871 Colliery Fireman Underground Eccles Lancashire
LANCASTER, Annie Wife Married
14 years F 37 1874 Leigh Lancashire
LANCASTER, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Leigh Lancashire
LANCASTER, William Son Single M 11 1900 School Leigh Lancashire
LANCASTER, Edith Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Leigh Lancashire
LANCASTER, Phylis Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Leigh Lancashire
LANCASTER, Annie Daughter Single F 3 1908 Leigh Lancashire
>>>>>LANCASTER, George Son Single M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Leigh Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 3 Jul 2013 06:54

Welcome to the boards, John.

Presumably this one:
Births Jun 1910
LANCASTER George Leigh 8c 318

Where have you looked for records - do you know who he married or when he died?

Added:
There is also this one:
Births Sep 1911
Lancaster George Brown Leigh 8c 508
and probably more, so looking for marriages will be difficult without further information.

Yes:
Marriages Sep 1935
Lancaster George Leigh Leigh 8c 679
Marriages Dec 1935
Lancaster George Barrow Leigh 8c 440

George Lancaster from Leigh, Lancashire married Cecelia Leigh in Leigh, the other one married Miriam Barrow (from Barrow??) :-)

Dea

Dea Report 3 Jul 2013 08:02

There are these 4 shown on Lancs BMD around that time - all show mother's maiden name.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LANCASTER George Aspull Wigan & Leigh TROUGHTON ASPL/62/432

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LANCASTER George Leigh Wigan & Leigh BOARDMAN L/29/360

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1911
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LANCASTER George East Preston Preston SLATER EP/17/87
LANCASTER George Leigh Wigan & Leigh BROWN L/31/395


What else do you know about him please?

Dea x

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 09:10

What 'records' do you have in mind?

Also........the places you suggest for birth are a long way apart.............

Start by checking LancsBMD

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

and/or freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Was he your direct ancestor? Please tell us all you know....................

Astra

Astra Report 3 Jul 2013 15:15

PM from John. Have asked him to return to this thread.

Married 3rd July 1935 his address at that time was 119 Warrington Road Leigh. he was a cloth Looker, his fathers name was also George he was retired colliery Fireman.
we are led to believe George Junior was killed in the second world war, but no record of that. all we have is his Marrage Cert. with Cecelia Leigh.

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 15:20

No record of a death for him on the CWGC site.

Could this story have been fabricated to cover-up possible abandonment of wife and child?

Here he is in 1911

1911 census


Person: LANCASTER, George Address: 40 Milton St Leigh Lancashire

LANCASTER, George Head Married M 40 1871 Colliery Fireman Underground Eccles Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, Annie Wife Married14 years F 37 1874 Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, William Son Single M 11 1900 School Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, Edith Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, Phylis Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, Annie Daughter Single F 3 1908 Leigh Lancashire VIEW
LANCASTER, George Son Single M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Leigh Lancashire VIEW

Sorry, Astra, just realised you'd posted the census some time ago........

I wonder why the OP didn't comment on it?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 3 Jul 2013 15:23

if that 1911 census is correct the other children show mmn as Boardman as well so this is probably George's parents marriage

Marriage: 26 Dec 1896 St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
George Lancaster - 25, Collier, Bachelor, 54 Stapleton St.
Annie Boardman - 23, Spinster, 6 King St.
Groom's Father: James Lancaster, Bricklayer
Bride's Father: Robert Boardman, Pattern Maker
Witness: William Lowe, (X); Mary Lowe

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 15:26

In a PM to me John says George was his father

John's birth was registered in 1946, which was after the end of WW2

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 3 Jul 2013 15:29

again on the assumption that 1911 is correct family

father George died in 4th April 1943of 86 Dakins Lea Leigh
administration of his will to widow Annie

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1943
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
LANCASTER George 71 Leigh & Golborne Wigan & Leigh LG/8/147

Astra

Astra Report 3 Jul 2013 15:36

I have advised John how to post on the thread so I can't understand why he is still sending PM's.

It's Ok Reggie about re-posting the 1911. We weren't sure if it was correct until we heard from the OP.

Astra

Astra Report 3 Jul 2013 15:44

So if he is George's son born in 1946 was his mother Cecilia? Or had the marriage broken down then.

A little confused.

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 15:56

The MMN on his birth is LEIGH

John

John Report 4 Jul 2013 08:44

John Lancaster was born in 1945, not 1946. his mother was Cecelia Nee Leigh.
i don't know what happened to his Father........it is a mistery, one wihich we would like to solve.i could not find out anything in the War Records, you may be right , his father might have abandond his mother and him. Did he get remarried? when did he die and where?lots of questions?????? we know he married Cecelia in 1935. we have the marrage cert.
Wife of John.

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 09:09

Wife of John..........

Please note.........I didn't say when John was born..........only when his birth was registered

Birth registered 1st qtr 1946, which would be the case if he was born in late 45, and the parents didn't register until January

If you purchase George's birth cert, you will learn his exact DOB.................that info can be used as search tool to try to find his death.

If George re-married, it could not have been legally, unless John's mother divorced him.

It would be good if you commented on all the info people have found for you

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 09:11

This would fit in with info found so far............

Death
Name: LANCASTER, George
Registration district: Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1991
Month of registration: August
Date of Birth:1 June 1910
Volume no: 39
Page no: 2093
Reg no: 891

When you get the birth cert, you'll be able to cross-refer

John

John Report 4 Jul 2013 09:13

we know that George Lancaster was born in 1910, and lived at 119 Warrington Road in Leigh (at time of marrage to Cecelia) and he was a cloth looker in a cotton mill.......and his father was George Lancaster Also. witnesses at their wedding was Lewis Joes and Annie Oddie. Maybie just maybie he wasnt his father afterall ????? but what happened to George Lancaster.
Wife of John.

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 09:16

Please read ALL the info and the advice above

John

John Report 4 Jul 2013 10:52

Reggie.
thank you for the information on George's death, i have just started to try and locate him,as for reading ALL the advise above, well i will all in good time,at the moment it all seems very confusing. i will be sending for George's Birth Cert. it seems to me you coukd be right about his death, but sadly that doesnt tell me that he was my husbands father..........
wife of John

John

John Report 4 Jul 2013 10:57

Astra.
Thank you for all the info on the 1911 Census regarding George Lancster.
John