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Kerry Report 7 Jul 2013 03:17

Iam trying too trace my Great grand Father Richard Cahill (b) 1826 and died 7 March at Pike street Thurles Tipperary. He was a Shoemaker I would like too find out his mother and Father but To this point have came up Blank.I find trying too find info from Ireland is hard. His wife Mary Cahill ( nee Jordan) came to Australia as her kids also came here.I know what happen to most of the family but it is in Ireland that I would like too find out more.Can anyone help.
Yours Truly


Kerry Report 7 Jul 2013 03:18

Sorry Richard died 7 of March 1901.


patchem Report 7 Jul 2013 09:35

Have you looked to see if anyone on here have any of your family in their trees?


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 Jul 2013 09:48

Posted by Susan @ 0529 on the thread you tacked onto

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
about Richard Cahill Name: Richard Cahill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
Death Age: 75
Registration District: Thurles
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 3
Page: 452
FHL Film Number: 101601

Any help.I would imagine the Death cert would have all that is available on him known at the time.


Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Jul 2013 11:22

Kerry...You dont say when the Cahill family moved to Australia....??

There is a Mathew Cahil and family Pike St. 1901/1911 (Thurles Urban)....


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jul 2013 09:54

PM from Kerry.....which may also have been sent to Susan
hI Susan
Many Thanks for that info but it is what I have on his death certificate. I was hopeing it would have his parents but not too be. I have been in touch with Ireland History Research and they tell me if I can find his parents they will be able too help me.Oh they only did Baptisms. As I say many thanks for your input and I might put a nother message on later on with more info and live in hope.
Many Thanks again

Unless the information you are happy to share is about a living person, its best to reply on your thread. That way people know that you have read the answering posts ;-)

Unlike Australian (& Scottish?) DC, UK ones don't give the names of the deceased's parents. Civil registration in much of the UK didn't come into being until 1837, too late for Richard + many Irish civil records were destroyed in the early 1900's.

If you can say when his child moved to Australia, he may be listed on Irish census with family which could give Richard's place of birth. Then you can look for baptism records


Maura Report 8 Jul 2013 13:53

No Irish vital records where destroyed in 1922, but no site has complete BMD's for Ireland


Maura Report 8 Jul 2013 15:50

Census Years1901TipperaryThurles TownPikeResidents of a house
Residents of a house 7 in Pike (Thurles Town, Tipperary)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Cahill Mary 60 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Tipperary - Cannot read - Widow

Richard Cahill & Mary Jordan did have a son Matthew


Kerry Report 8 Jul 2013 22:02

Many Thanks for that it shows I have the right Richard. Iam on Ancestry also but can't find 1901 Census where can I find these Census so I can check them out for my self. Many Thanks again.


Kerry Report 8 Jul 2013 22:07

Hi Detective
Sorry about that Iam new too this and will reply on here from new on. I do understand about the Irish records and most of my family came ffrom Buckingham Eng and yes info is a lot easer too get in Eng than Ireland.I will battle on and hope I get somewhere one day soon.Many Thanks I will put a list of Richard Childern on today some time.


Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Jul 2013 02:15

Kerry.... is the link for 1901/1911 Census...

Look at the Death Cert for Richard and see what No. The Pike (aka Pike St.) he was living at the time...
Have brought your PM across...for ref.

"The Cahill Family is Matthew (b)1871 Annie(b) 1873 And Sarah (my Grandmother)(b) 1881 all came out to Australia on the Jumna 1899.Mary Cahill (Nee Jordan) My their mother came out 17/10/1901 on the Duke of Sutherland ..
Duke of Sutherland I think it would have been after Richard died in1901.Her other son John Cahill came out 19/5/1886 on the Roma,Her daughter Mary came out on the 14/8/1886 on the Quetta she was with her brother William.Their is another daughter Honora but can't find when she came out. Other family is Bridget 1867,Catherine 1870,James 1860.All of these children did not come out too Australia

If Mathew went out to Aus.then he cannot be the Mathew on 1901/1911...although its strange he is a Boot and ShoeMaker and his eldest boy is named Richard....The aforesaid Mathew died in Thurles 1930s

Mary Jordan Cahill doesnt show on the 1911 Census for Thurles.....


Kerry Report 9 Jul 2013 04:17

Hi Eringobragh
Iam sorry if I have said it wrong but Mary Jordan Cahill was here in Australia on the 17/10/1901 so she would not have show up on the 1911 Census.I think when Richard died march 1901 Mary decided too come out to Aust too join her kids. Her boat arrived at Brisbane on the 17/10/1901 and that is about 8 mths after Richard Died.
As for Matthew he arrived in Brisbane in 1899,But I have check with everyone I know in the family that is related too Mathew and they don't know what happen too him I have check the Aust Census and voteing list and no sign on him.I have check marriages no luck so I have taken it that he might have gone back home when Richard died. Sadly Aust don't have any departure records.
The Mathew you have told me about sound's like him His Brother William (Died here in aust) was a shoe maker also,I would not count out your Mathew. You have given me much hope and I do thank you very much ;-).Please let me know if you come across anymore info.
Yours Truly


Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Jul 2013 18:55

Kerry...Have you been in contact with this family....?
Obviously researching /connected to you....
Have sent name /details by PM (Personal Message)

Seeking info on Richard Cahill-bootmaker b.1830.
Mary Cahill nee Jordan b.1832 d.1916.
Children Mary b.1863,William b.1863,John b.1866,
Matthew b.1875,Annie b.1876,Sarah Mary Bishop b.1881 d.1919,Norah b.1882 d.1954 .Bridgette.
Most of family came to Australia 1891.

We have a big file,including photos of family members
back in Ireland,and have been trying to locate offspring
from each of the children who came to Australia 1890/s .
My grandmother was Norah,born about 1881,died 1950/s".


Kerry Report 9 Jul 2013 23:13

G'day Eringobbragh1916

Many Thanks for that and yes I have been in touch with this person and he got a lot of info off me and pictures. I will not contact him again, as we have been in touch. Many thanks for your time that you have put into this and Iam so great full for your help.
I have been into the 1901 & 1911 Census and will at some time look at those Cahill's that you have brough too my ATT.Iam not sure where I will head from here.Once again MANY THANKS :-D. Let me know if I can ever be any help.Iam not real good in this family thing but I just struggle on.Have a good day.


Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Jul 2013 23:54

Kerry....Your doing just grand....!

If you have a look at the 1901/1911 Census you will find a couple of Jordan families also around the Pike /Quarry St areas ...dont know if they belong to Mary....
Pike St.and Quarry St ran/run parallel to one an other...(East Thurles) names changed over the years...Pike St.renamed Kirkham St and Quarry St. became Mitchell St....
There was a James Cahill (Shoemaker) and William on Quarry St..1850s dont know if theres any connection there....
Have you Richard and Marys MC.....?
If they came from the Quarry /Pike area then I imagine their Church would be The Cathedral of the Assumption....


Maura Report 14 Jul 2013 14:01

Children of Richard Cahill and Mary Jordan
John 1865
Bridget 1867
Catherine 1870
Matthew 1871
Anne 1873
Hanora 1876
Sarah 1878
Hanora 1881


Kerry Report 14 Jul 2013 23:21

Hi Eringobragh1916
Glad to here from you again. I like too thank you for that info as when I got Richard death Certificate it just show Pike Street. and that is all I had too work on .I have just about search everywhere I cant for their Marriage certificate and just about run out of places too look. When I finish reading your last reply I must have search for about 4hrs on the computer on Ancestry and Family search .org and came up with nothing. Some time ago some one gave me a married date of 29/7/1859 but cant remember where I got that date from.I have Richards Death Certificate that show's that he was 75 when he died on the 7/3/1901 that say's he was born in 1826.But trying too find his Marriage certificate I can't.I would not have the money too join every Irish web site that say they COULD help me. I NEVER expect anything for nothing but I do under stand it sometime cost to find things out. Anyway getting back too Richard I will just keep looking and Many Thanks for Your Time Iam very Greatful and that goes for every one on here that helps. and Keep in touch.
Yours Truly


Kerry Report 14 Jul 2013 23:36

Me Again Eringobragh1916
Sorry with all my yapping I forgot too say that James could be one of his son's as one of his other son's that came too Australia William was also a Bootmaker out here. James along with other kids just vanish ( Matthew 1871, Annie 1873,Mary1863) These 3 Came to Aust but as I say just Vanish.. James I believe did not come too Australia.I have a date of birth from Tipperary Family History Search of 25/7/1860 for James.
They Could not help me with Richard until I could find out who his parents are.


Kerry Report 14 Jul 2013 23:49

Hi Maura
I like too thank you for your time and finding out this info.I have most of the kids as you can see with my reply to Eringobragh. But Iam very greatful And like too thank you very much for your time.Richard is my biggest problem and his Marriage to Mary Jordan. I know her Parents as I got them off Mary (1832) death Certificate .She is buried with her Daughter My Grandmother in Brisbane Aust. Her Parents are John Jordan & Marry Duggan, I know they had a daughter Anne who was Present at Richard death. Not sure why Mary Richard Wife was not Present?
Anyway once again Many thanks for your help You both Eringobragh And you have been a great help.Please let me know if you find any little thing you may stumble on during your search.
Yours Truly


Kerry Report 14 Jul 2013 23:56

You ask me some time ago what No Pike st sorry I did not answer you but I found a Richard Cahill in 7 Pike street also their is a Jordan In 10 Pike street But not too sure if this is them but Richard marring a Jordan I though the 2 family's could be them.