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Harry Boulton, Staffordshire, C1888

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Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 12:17

Possibly this marriage:

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Boulton Henry Stoke upon Trent 6b 211
Devereux Frances Stoke T. 6b 211 Scan available - click to view
Jones Gertrude Stoke T. 6b 211 Scan available - click to view
Jones Joseph Stoke T. 6b 211 Scan available - click to view

Mary's death I think

Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
Boulton Mary Elizabeth 44 Stone 6b 18 Scan available - click to view

safc

safc Report 19 Jul 2013 12:23

Name: Henry Boulton
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Frances Devereux
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1902
Event Place: Parish Church Or Church Of The Resurrection, Dresden, Stafford, England
Father's Name: Henry Boulton
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Devereux
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16628-1
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1470944
Reference ID: 2:G24HMC

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 12:24

Henry/Harry working on farm in 1901

Henry Boulton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wem, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Stone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Stone
Sub-registration District: Stone
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 12
Piece: 2575
Folio: 15
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Heler 33
Sarah Brayford 55
Fanny Bennion 28
Henry Boulton 15
George Bennion 19
George Boulton 17

And although birthplace is wrong, I think this is him in 1911

Henry Boulton
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stone, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Stone
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Cotwalton Nr Stone, Staffs
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Cowman
Registration District: Stone
Registration District Number: 358
Sub-registration District: Stone
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 11
Piece: 16374
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel White 38
Mary E White 36
Charles W White 13
Lily White 12
Alice White 10
Samuel White 9
John White 7
Harold White 6
Evelyn White 5
Reginald White 3
Mildred A White 2
Violet E White 1
Jessie Chadwick 18
Maggie Till 14
James Capewell 38
Henry Boulton 26
Thomas Bowers 34

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 12:34

Doesn't look like we are going to find Henry snr with his parents, unless his mother is Rachel Boulton

Henry Boulton
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheadle, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Dilhorne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Cheadle
Sub-registration District: Dilhorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 45
Piece: 2888
Folio: 21
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boulton 68
Jane Boulton 69
Rachel Boulton 30 (daughter, unmarried)
James Boulton 26
George Boulton 21
Henry Boulton 11

Henry age 1 is in the same household in 1861.

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 12:48

Mary Thornhillin 1861

Thomas Thornhill
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Thornhill
Gender: Male
Where born: Wem, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Horton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Wem
Sub-registration District: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 4
Piece: 1886
Folio: 76
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Thornhill 58
Margaret Thornhill 39
Sarah Thornhill 6
Mary Thornhill 3
Thomas Thornhill 7 Months

Possibly her father?

20 Aug 1809 Thomas, a base child of Sarah Thornhill, reputed father, Wm. Astley bap.
Book: Christenings. (Baptism)
Collection: Shropshire: Wem, Edstaston, Newtown - Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 12:54

Wow! Thank you so much for your time everyone! Interesting that he had two wives.....

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 12:59

Mary Elisabeth Thornhill
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Apr 1858
Christening Place: WEM,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Thornhill
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00899-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 503824

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 13:38

It actually looks like Henry/Harry did indeed start out life as Harry! (not sure if this has already been posted, so sorry if it is a duplication.)

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
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BOULTON Harry Wem 6a 749

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 13:50

Haven't managed to find a marriage for Thomas Thornhill to Margaret/Margrett though, nor him on any census prior to 1861 - so can't find her maiden name I'm afraid.

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 18:46

Thanks for your research, I really appreciate your time given to help me.
I wonder if Margaret was a middle name, I've found lots of other relatives on my tree who used middle names instead of first names.....if only they'd known what confusion it would cause in the future!

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2013 19:03

Yes, they don't make it easy at times do they! Any you're welcome, we all like to chip in with some help where possible.

Not sure about the middle name though, I can't see Thomas earlier than the 1861 census (apart from the possible christening) so don't know if that is why we can't find his marriage.

Sarah

Sarah Report 22 Jul 2013 22:11

Still can't find a marriage for Thomas and Margaret.....maybe they never married??

Sarah

Sarah Report 23 Jul 2013 17:44

Hello again,
Going back to Doris Brough Turfrey I'm wondering where the "Brough" came from?
Her immediate family on the census are all Turfrey. Doris' birth certificate is left blank for Father's name, however her marriage certificate names Gerry? (Unclear) Turfrey as her Father but says he is deceased.... Could it be made-up to save embarrassment ?

Sarah

Sarah Report 25 Jul 2013 08:47

It looks very likely that Doris was illegitimate, is it possible that the name "Brough" was a hint to Doris' Father's name? - although the birth certificate was left blank?