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Ealiza Cormack

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Clare

Clare Report 21 Jul 2013 08:38

Would you be kind enough to see what you can find on my great great grandmother and father?

I have some details on my g g g/mother - Ealiza Cormack (married name), born 1821, in Ireland, died 1931 in Bath, UK.

I've no knowledge of her husband which is what I'd really like to find details on. I only know he was a jobbing carpenter and there is some connection with India because their son Daniel was born there.

In the 1881 census Ealiza was living in Bath with her son, Daniel Cormack (french polisher) born in 1851, died 1910, born in India, so I am keen to explore the origins of his father but without a christian name, am stuck.

If it helps Daniel Cormack went on to marry Miriam Fisher in 1882 and had my grandfather, Sidney O'Connell Cormack, in 1883

Many thanks

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jul 2013 08:43

If Daniel married in England then his marriage cert should name his dad

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Jul 2013 08:46

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328021

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Jul 2013 08:49

This is probably on the other thread, but it's too long for me to plough through at the moment

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
CATLEY Francis Bath 5c 906
CORMACK Daiel O'Connell J Bath 5c 906
CORMACK Daniel O'Connell J Bath 5c 906
FISHER Miriam Bath 5c 906
FISHER Mirium Bath 5c 906
LOCKYEAR Ellen Bath 5c 906

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Jul 2013 08:51

You could buy her death cert..............it should give her husband's first name

But.......I think you need to re-think the woman's death year

See the info you were given about that on the other thread

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 09:01

Hello Clare, could you check your dates - was she really 110 when she died?

Clare

Clare Report 21 Jul 2013 09:25

Apols - in the previous thread there is a death mentioned:

Elizabeth Cormack, Bath, December 1884. This would fit with the 1881 census when she was 60, dying 3 years later at 63.

I will purchase her death certificate to ascertain her father's name. Thanks

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jul 2013 09:30

Miriam was a widow by 1911

1911 census transcription details for: 30a Monmouth Street Bath

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN14723 RG78PN893 RD316 SD4 ED21 SN170
Reg. District: Bath
Sub District: Walcot
Parish: Bath
Enum. District: 21
Address: 30a Monmouth Street Bath
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CORMACK, Miriam Wife Widow F 58 1853 Newsagents Bassingbourn Cambridgeshire
CORMACK, Fortunato Son M 22 1889 Assist In The Business Bath Somerset
CORMACK, Mabel Daughter F 21 1890 Newspaper Agent Bath Somerset
CORMACK, May Daughter F 19 1892 Assist In The Business Bath Somerset
CORMACK, Sophianos Son M 17 1894 Assist In The Business Bath Somerset

Was a recent widow !


Name: Daniel O'C J Cormack
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1910
Age at Death: 59
Registration District: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 284

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 21 Jul 2013 09:30

Have you found her after 1881?
Is this not her death??

Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
Cormack Elizabeth 63 Bath 5c 427

This is the only Cormack death in Somerset which could possibly fit.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jul 2013 09:32

Clare her death cert won't give her Fathers name Hopefully it will say widow of and her hubby's name,

Am wondering Ealiza maiden name was O,Connell as that was given to Daniel as part of his name


Daniels marriage cert though should give his dads name


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 09:44

This seems to be the 1871 for Eliza and Daniel:

CORMACK, Elizabeth Head F 38 1833 Ireland - annuitant (widow)
CORMACK, Daniel Son M 20 1851 India - carpenter
HILL, George Lodger M 58 1813 Gloucestershire
TILLY, John Lodger M 69 1802 Ireland
WILKINS, John Lodger M 45 1826 Glamorgan
OSMOND, Mary A Lodger F 27 1844 Somerset
CLARK, James Lodger M 31 1840 Ireland

Piece: 5360 Folio: 129 Page: 11
Registration District: Cardiff Civil
Parish: Cardiff (St Mary)
Municipal Borough: Cardiff

Address: Mary Ann St, Cardiff (St Mary), Cardiff County: Glamorganshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 09:59

Might be a complete coincidence, but thought I'd post - just in case:

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Daniel Cormack
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Eliza O Connell
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1848
Event Place: Tynemouth, Christ Church, Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Daniel Cormack
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: David O Connell
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13565-9
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1068931
Reference ID: 2:3K79V1W

Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6P6-7RK : accessed 21 Jul 2013), Daniel Cormack and Eliza O Connell, 1848.

Can anyone see this couple on the 1851?

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Jul 2013 10:30

They - if they were Daniel's parents - would have been in India in 1851.............

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Jul 2013 10:33

Clare

To get factual info, buy one of the certs whose GRO details you have been given.

£9.25 on line from the GRO

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 10:40

Reggie, I couldn't spot that couple in 1851 so was wondering if it indeed was them.

However, I was asking if anyone else could see them in case I'd missed them. If the couple from that 1848 marriage were to be found in 1851 then we could probably eliminate them as Daniel's potential parents.

Clare

Clare Report 21 Jul 2013 19:44

Thanks for your help. I've ordered a copy of Daniel Cormack and Eliza O'Connell's marriage cert from 1848 and also their son Daniel's marriage to Miriam Fisher in 1882.

Dea

Dea Report 21 Jul 2013 20:14

Come back to us when you receive them and we can see if we can help further !!

Dea Xxx

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jul 2013 20:36

(just come across the below)

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Newcastle Courant etc (Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England), Friday, September 15, 1848

At Tynemouth on the 9th, Mr Daniel Cormack, master mariner, of Tynemouth, to Miss Eliza O'Connell, of Kilmallock, in the county of Limerick.

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jul 2013 20:57

(MC, if your'e about, can you see below newspaper article?, sorry to ask, lol)

IRELAND. Capt. Daniel Cormack, of the Heroine, whose life was sacrificed to the cruelty of the savages on the coast of Africa, is nearly related to Dr. Morgan O'Connell, of Kilmallock, having been married to a sister of that gentleman. His afflicted widow and Morning Post London, England11/11/1853

Chris :)

edits (google bringing up items)

http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?offset=1220&index=100065

Clare

Clare Report 22 Jul 2013 08:38

That's fascinating Chris - thank you!