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James Henry Pike born 1902 West Ham

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Jane

Jane Report 22 Jul 2013 01:40

Hi,

Can anyone help to find this person on the 1911 census please.

Jane.

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Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 04:05

Possibly with his Grandfather


1911 England Census
about James Pike Name: James Pike
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Grand Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Drayton Parslow
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: Drayton Parslow, Bletchley, Bucks
Occupation: School
Registration District: Winslow
Registration District Number: 147
Sub-registration District: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 49
Piece: 7960
Household Members: Name Age
James Pike 57
Lilly Pike 19 >>>Dau
Frederick Pike 17 >>>Son
James Pike 9 >>>Grandson


Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 04:07

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Henry Pike Name: James Henry Pike
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 163




England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about James Henry Pike Name: James Henry Pike
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1902
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 76
Registration District: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 0945

""If he was born on Sept 30th his reg would have been in the dec qua as above ""

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 04:16

Is this his marraige


..England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about James H Pike Name: James H Pike
Spouse Surname: Bird
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 8
Find Spouse: Christina M Bird

Jane

Jane Report 22 Jul 2013 06:53

Hi Susan,

Thank you for finding this information on James Henry Pike, I do not know much about him yet, I know he did marry in 1944 in Lewisham to May E Stone, but this may have been a second marriage for him.

The 1911 census he is with grandparents I wonder about his real parents...

Can you possibly find his baptism.

Thanks Susan for helping me with this.


Jane.

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 07:29

You may have to buy his birth cert for his parents details

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 09:12

Marriage .

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about James H Pike Name: James H Pike
Spouse Surname: Stone
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration District: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1339
Find Spouse: May E Stone

The marriage cert would have the fathers names on it if known

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 09:26

Clutching at straws here but I think this is the family in 1901 before James Henry bn 1902 was born.
If the census I posted for 1911 is the correct family then Lilly appears here as well.

1901 England Census
about James Pike Name: James Pike
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Upottery, Devon, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 321
Piece: 1582
Folio: 132
Page Number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
James Pike 47 Grandfather 1911 cenesus
James H Pike 23 father of James bn 1902
Arthur W Pike 17
John Pike 15
Albert E Pike 13
Lilly E Pike 9 Same Lilly AS 1911 above


I hope you can follow my madness :-D

Jane

Jane Report 22 Jul 2013 09:50

Hi Susan,

Thanks for finding another census for me, shall have to think what to do next.

That is the marriage for Pike and Stone in 1944...

Thank you again.


Jane .

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Dea

Dea Report 22 Jul 2013 10:04

I think you have it Susan!!

If the 1901 census above is the same family as the 1911 then Frederick is missing so I went to look for him:

1901 census transcription details for: Baptist Chapel Lane, Drayton Parslow
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1358
Folio: 113
Page: 1
Reg. District: Winslow
Sub District: Winslow
Parish: Drayton Parslow
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Drayton Parslow
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Baptist Chapel Lane, Drayton Parslow
County: Buckinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WEBB, John Head Married M 49 1852 Agricultural Labourer
Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire
WEBB, Sarah A Wife Married F 49 1852
Soulbury, Buckinghamshire
PIKE, Frederick Nephew Single M 7 1894
London
BURTON, Edward Boarder Single M 7 1894
London
BURTON, Arthur Boarder Single M 5 1896
London



Then I looked for a marriage for the Webbs to see her maiden name and how Frederick would be their nephew:

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
BATES John Barnes Leighton B 3b 654 Scan available - click to view
**Elliott Sarah Ann Leighton B. 3b 654 Scan available - click to view
Smith Rebecca Leighton B. 3b 654 Scan available - click to view
**Webb John Leighton B. 3b 654 Scan available - click to view


No Pike marriage to an Elliott so he had to be connected to the Webb side??

Found this:

Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
Pike James Winslow 3a 882 Scan available - click to view
WEBB Sarah Jane Winslow 3a 882 Scan available - click to view

So, it is the same family.

Dea x



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jul 2013 10:09

You need to buy the Pike / Stone marriage certificate to confirm the name and occupation of his father.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2013 10:25

???

1881 England Census
about Sarah Jane Pike Name: Sarah Jane Pike
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Pike
Gender: Female
Where born: Drayton, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 10 Tibbatts Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Poplar
Sub-registration District: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 496
Folio: 35
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
James Pike 27 Honiton Devon
Sarah Jane Pike 26
James Pike 3 Bromley
Mary Ann Pike 3 mnths Bromley


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2013 10:40

I wonder if this is the same family in 1891.....

Mistranscribed as Dike but it clearly reads "Pike" on the image.....

??

1891 England Census
about James Dike Name: James Dike
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah J Dike
Gender: Male
Where born: Padstow, Devon, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1321
Folio: 86
Page Number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
James Dike 37
Sarah J Dike 36 Drayton Buckinghamshire
James H Dike 13 Bromley Middlesex
Alfred Dike 8 Bromley Middlesex
Arthur W Dike 7 Bromley Middlesex
John Dike 5 Canning Town
Albert E Dike 3 Canning Town
Luisa Dike 1 CanningTown


Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 10:51


Hi Dea

Yes I think it is correct with your added info ...good find :-D

PH and RG good fits too :-D

Suex <3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2013 10:52

Bingo!!

Louisa is also with a Webb family.........

1901 England Census
about Louisa Pike Name: Louisa Pike
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Canning Town, London, England
[London, England]

Civil Parish: Drayton Parslow
Ecclesiastical parish: Drayton Parslow
Town: Drayton Parslow
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Winslow
Sub-registration District: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 32
Piece: 1358
Folio: 114
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Webb 48
Mary A Webb 48
Louisa Pike 11


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2013 11:00

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: PIKE, Louisa
Address: Drayton Parslow Bletchley Buckinghamshire

WEBB, Mary Ann Head Widow F 57 1854 Small Shopkeeper Bucks Drayton Parslow VIEW
PIKE, Louisa Niece Single F 21 1890 Dressmaker Essex Canning Town VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7960
Reference: RG14PN7960 RG78PN400 RD147 SD1 ED8 SN21
Registration District: Winslow
Sub District: Winslow
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Drayton Parslow
Address: Drayton Parslow Bletchley Buckinghamshire
County: Buckinghamshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jul 2013 11:03

Unless I am missing something, I still think that the marriage certificate is required. His father could be James b. 1878 or Alfred b. 1883 or Arthur b. 1884 or even the Illegitimate son of Mary Ann b. abt 1880. Any of them may have named a son for their father James Pike b. 1854 Devon.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2013 11:08

I agree RG.

Dea

Dea Report 22 Jul 2013 11:11

You are right Rootgatherer - that marriage cert is a 'MUST' !!!

Dea Xxx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jul 2013 11:24

Thanks Prickles and Dea.

I think that we can rule out Mary Ann.

Births Dec 1880 PIKE Mary Ann Poplar 1c 663

Deaths Jun 1881 Pike Mary Ann 0 Poplar 1c 405


On the 1911 census James Pike had filled in family details by mistake and it has been crossed out. He states 11 children born, 8 living, 3 had died.