Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

New Scottish Census

New Scottish census records

Do you have Scottish ancestors?

Perhaps you do and you just didn't know! Search our brand new Scottish census records today and discover if you have Scottish roots.

Search Scottish Census

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Incoming and Outgoing Travel Records

Page 0 + 1 of 2

  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. »
ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Maria

Maria Report 23 Sep 2013 17:31

Does anyone have access to travel records to search for travel between England and France between the years 1871 and 1901.

I am trying to find records for Alice Jane Gough born 1859 in Wiltshire. I would also like to have knowledge of anyone else who travelled with her - she may have left as Miss A J Gough and returned as Mrs A J Gough widower? The last record I have for Alice is in the 1871 census then again on the 1901 census.

Many thanks.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 23 Sep 2013 17:38

Findmypast only has records from 1890 through to 1960 - have checked, however nothing showing for your Alice.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 17:40

Usually those travel records haven't been kept as they were such a short journey to and from the continent people traveled as foot passengers .

Maria

Maria Report 23 Sep 2013 17:44

Thanks very much I suppose I have no way of finding out - such a shame really.

Researching: Lomas, Tunstall, Gough, Winch, Cray, Tanner

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 17:53

looks like her dad remarried

1881 England Census about Joseph Gough
Name: Joseph Gough
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Gough
Gender: Male
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Horfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 53 Gloster Road
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Mason
Registration District: Barton Regis
Sub-registration District: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2487
Folio: 91
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gough 53
Elizabeth Gough 30
Joseph E. Gough 14>>>>>
Minnie A. Gough 11>>>>>>>>
Alfred B. Gough 2
Fredrick B. Gough 1
Harry Bulgein 16

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2487; Folio: 91; Page: 6; GS

>>>> on the 1871 with wife Ann


Deaths Mar 1873
Gough Ann 46 Melksham 5a 73

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Sep 2013 17:59

Connected:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1210247

According to that thread you had found her in the 1881?

13 Mar 2010 23:08
yes I believe she is a sister to Agnes mary Gough b51. She was born in Trowbridge and I have managed to find her on the 1881 census as a needlewoman living with her parents Joseph and Ann.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Sep 2013 18:01

You may already have this:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32074/pages/9765/page.pdf

ADDED:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Alice Jane Gough
Probate Date: 7 Sep 1920
Death Date: 11 Jul 1920
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

Widow of Hollywood House, Roxborough Avenue, Harrow on the Hill. Probate to the Public Trustee. Effects £4618 17s 10d

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 18:02

her sister married
1881 England Census about Dorcas A. Toogood
Name: Dorcas A. Toogood
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Alfred J. Toogood
Gender: Female
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Horfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 53 Gloster Road
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Barton Regis
Sub-registration District: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2487
Folio: 92
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred J. Toogood 27
Dorcas A. Toogood 25

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2487; Folio: 92; Page: 7; GSU


Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Gough Dorcas Ann Barton R. 6a 278
spouse TOOGOOD Alfred Josiah

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 18:16

well her sister married Barton Regis so wonder about this one

Marriages Jun 1881
BADOCK Miriam Gertrude Barton R. 6a 297
Gough Alice Barton R 6a 297
Meissner Albert Ludwig Barton R. 6a 297
ROBINSON John Henry Barton R. 6a 297

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 18:21

theres no sister Agnes with them on the 1871 census

1871 England Census about Joseph Gough
Name: Joseph Gough
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gough
Gender: Male
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Trowbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Trowbridge
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration District: Melksham
Sub-registration District: Trowbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 209
Piece: 1920
Folio: 21
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gough 43
Ann Gough 43
John Hy Gough 17
Dorcas Ann Gough 15
Alice Jane Gough 11
Joseph E Gough 4
Minnie E Gough 1

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1920; Folio: 21; Page: 34; GSU roll: 830871.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 18:24

1891 England Census about Minnie A Gough
Name: Minnie A Gough
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Filton
Ecclesiastical parish: Filton
Town: Filton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Barton Regis
Sub-registration District: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1974
Folio: 78
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Shellard 47
Ellen Shellard 39
Edwin Shellard 17
Mary J Butler 20
John H Iles 19
Ellen P Boam 18
Minnie A Gough 21>>>>>>>
Elizabeth Selman 19

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1974; Folio: 78; Page: 10; GSU Roll: 6097084.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Sep 2013 18:27

I may be wrong, but I have doubts that the widow and the girl from the 1871 are the same person.

Glitterbaby had posted this on the original thread:

13 Mar 2010 23:14
1891 but need to check around for a marriage ??

Name: Alice J Lanfear
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Frederick
Gender: Female
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Westbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Dilton Marsh
Town: Dilton Marsh
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:

Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Lanfear 37
Alice J Lanfear 34
Bessie Lanfear 9
Ernest Lanfear 5
.......................................................................................................................

This is the FindMyPast version to show occupations, it would fit with being a needlewoman on previous census

LANFEAR, Frederick Head Married M 37 1854 Pattern Weaver Westbury, Wiltshire
LANFEAR, Alice J Wife Married F 34 1857 Dress Maker Trowbridge, Wiltshire
LANFEAR, Bessie Daughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar Westbury, Wiltshire
LANFEAR, Ernest Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Westbury, Wiltshire

Piece: 1608 Folio: 32 Page: 13
Registration District: Westbury
Civil Parish: Westbury

Address: Dilton Marsh, Westbury, Dilton Marsh County: Wiltshire
...................................................................................................

EDIT: Oh well, we can rule that one out!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frederick Lanfear
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1879
Registration District: Westbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 291

Records on Page:
Name
Alice Jane Barnes
Frederick Lanfear

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Sep 2013 18:35

this is that marriage
Marriages Dec 1879
Barnes Alice Jane Westbury W 5a 291
LANFEAR Frederick Westbury, W. 5a 291


so not Alice Gough

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Sep 2013 21:19

Travel between the UK and mainland Europe is not documented

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 23 Sep 2013 22:01

I'm not sure which thread to post on now, but most answers are on this one.


I have my doubts about that Alice J Gough death myself. She was supposed to have married. So unless she married a Gough that's not her.

1861, just to show Agnes with the family.

1861 England Census
Name: Alice Gough
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Gough
Mother's Name: Ann Gough
Gender: Female
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Trowbridge
Town: Trowbridge
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Melksham
Sub-registration District: Trowbridge
Piece: 1295
Folio: 110
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Gough 33
Ann Gough 33
Agnes Gough 9
John H Gough 7
Dorcas A Gough 5
Alice Gough 1

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 23 Sep 2013 22:05

Although after saying that maybe she did marry a Gough after all.

1911 England Census
Name: Alice Jane Gough
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Harrow on the Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Hollywood House, Roxborough Avenue, Harrow On The Hill
Marital Status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Private Means
Registration District: Hendon
Registration District Number: 130
Sub-registration District: Harrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 369
Piece: 7075
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Jane Gough 51
Emilie Weekes 47 - Cook
Dorothy Wall 17 - Parlour Maid

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Sep 2013 23:44

I would have doubts as to credibility of the status "widow" on the 1911 census. Year of birth and birthplace match the Alice Jane Gough that you are looking for. Perhaps she adopted the title of "Mrs" for appearances. Personally, I would buy a copy of that will to checkout the beneficiaries of such a fairly large estate.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 24 Sep 2013 00:17

And/or her death cert.

Deaths Sep 1920 GOUGH Alice J 60 Hendon 3a 249

Harrow is in Hendon registration district at this time.

Maria

Maria Report 24 Sep 2013 15:39

I have the will of Alice Jane Gough who left her estate to her 'Adopted' (although no official papers have been found) daughter - Josephine Laura Tunstall (my grandmother). As you suggest she may have adopted the title of "Mrs" for appearances.

Alice apparently bought the estate with money that she had as a result of being in Paris and buying and selling shares.

I am trying to find out more about her life whilst she was in Paris to try and piece things together. I do have an old address book of hers with french addresses but none relating to her.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 15:53

Births Sep 1896 Tunstall Josephine Laura Highworth 5a 11

1911

Name: Josephine Laura Tunstall
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Swindon, Wiltshire
Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 372 Gloucester Road, Horfield, Bristol
Registration District: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration District: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household Schedule Number: 99
Piece: 15088
Household Members:
Name Age
Sidney Alban Cray 60
Agnes Mary Cray 59
Josephine Laura Tunstall 14


1901

Name: Josephine L Tunstall
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Swindon, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishopston St Michael and All Angels
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Bristol
Sub-registration District: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 310
Piece: 2398
Folio: 127
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Sidney A Cray 50
Agnes M Cray 49
Josephine L Tunstall 4
Joseph Gough 70 Father-in-law


Unlikely that there would be any paperwork for adoption at that time. looks like Josephine the "adopted" daughter was actually her Grand Neice, if the census relationship of Grand daughter to alice's sister Agnes is the correct relationship on the 1901 and 1911 census.