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Help with New York BDMs

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Irene

Irene Report 27 Sep 2013 00:16

Hi
Are there any indexes available for BDMs in Brooklyn, Kings, or Jersey, United States.

I am trying to obtain a death cert of Edward Richard Perks (born abt 1831) who died 29 Dec 1883 and was buried at Greenwood cemetery on 2 Jan 1884. This info come from Greenwood cemetery. He died from an accidental fall so wonder if there was anything in a newspaper. I have tried to obtain a death cert for him but searchs come back negative (City of New York Municipal Archives) Edward was born in England married Sarah Riley Taylor 1863 in Birmingham.

Also trying to find the birth of his son Edward Richard Perks. Have managed to obtain a death certficate for him for 16 Feb 1876 at Kings, New York. He was aged 3 yrs 29 days at date of death, birth was listed as Brooklyn. He is also buried at Greenwood cemetery. I have tried to obtain a birth cert for this child but that has also come back negative (City of New York, Municipal Archives).

I would also love to find out if there are any more children from the marriage of Edward Richard Perks to Sarah Riley Taylor. They emigrated from Birmingham, Warwickshire to America. The first instance of them in USA is in the Gopsill's Jersey City directory 1867. Sarah is a milliner. Edward was a chemist. It looks like Edward was in Brooklyn from 1871-1884.

I would love any help towards finding more on this couple in the USA.

Regards
Irene

Flip

Flip Report 27 Sep 2013 07:00

There is this, and to be naturalised it confirms he had been in US for at least 5 years.

Edward R Perks
Record Date: 21 Oct 1873
Court: County Court of Kings County (1-333)
Court Location: Kings, New York, USA
Title/Description: County Court of Kings County (046-049)
ARC Number: 5324244
ARC Title: Petitions for Naturalization, 1793-1906
Record Group Title: Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service
Record Group Number: 85

There's also this, he was acquitted of manslaughter:

Edward Richard Perks
Date of Trial: 10 Mar 1862
Trial Year: 1862
Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2013 12:06

Name: Edward Richard Perks
Spouse's Name: Sarah Riley Taylor
Event Date: 28 Sep 1863
Event Place: Bishops Ryder,Birmingham,Warwick,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04176-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 812082

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 27 Sep 2013 14:38

Not Edwards death but maybe his baptism

Name: Edward Richard Perks
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 05 Jun 1831
Christening Place: SAINT MARY,LICHFIELD,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Perks
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03932-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 435791

Irene

Irene Report 27 Sep 2013 21:19

Hi all,

Thank you very much for this info. Great to see all this interesting information and it helps to fill in some of the gaps. Thats great to have a baptism, marriage and naturalization info. Interesting about the manslaughter acquittal. Maybe that is why they left Birmingham. I appreciate your kindness in helping me out.

Irene

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Sep 2013 21:53

The manslaughter incident sounds like a terrible accident

Publication:Berkshire Chronicle
Publication date:Saturday 15 February 1862

Article text:
Edward Perks, a druggist's assistant at Lichfield, has been committed for trial for manslaughter, but bailed in £600, for labelling "Ethiop's mineral" as "Turpeth's," whereby a farmer named Winter came by his death, he having taken it as medicine.

(There were numerous similar reports)

Irene

Irene Report 27 Sep 2013 22:49

HI Marie,

Thanks. Wow. I would love to get copies of these reports. Where did you find them. Thanks for the help. Very very much appreciated.

Irene

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Sep 2013 23:39

Hello Irene, it was from the British Newspaper Archives.

Check your messages inbox - I've sent you a copy.

Irene

Irene Report 28 Sep 2013 02:23

Thanks Marie
You are very kind and much appreciated.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 28 Sep 2013 12:56

I keep trying to find what I saw on this site:
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

but I think they are doing some work on it at the moment.

IF it works again-just input Edward Perks with exact phrase ticked.

The second to last citation is your fellow.
Fell off a pier.

Maureen

Gins

Gins Report 28 Sep 2013 14:18

Have you seen this?



Web: New York, Find A Grave Index, 1660-2012

Name:Edward R Perks

Death Date:Jan 1884

Burial Place:Brooklyn, Kings County, New York, USA


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...




Web: Brooklyn, New York, Green-Wood Cemetery Burial Index

Name:Edward R Perks

Burial Date:2 Jan 1884

Burial Place:Kings, NY USA



PERKS

EDWARD R

1884-01-02

Burial Lot: 4969
Section: 14
Grave: 170


http://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php

Gins

Gins Report 28 Sep 2013 14:23


U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Name:Edward R Perks

Residence Year:1873

Street Address:288 Navy

Residence Place:Brooklyn, New York

Occupation:Chemist

Publication Title:
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1873




U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Name:Edward R Perks

Residence Year:1873

Street Address:299 Navy

Residence Place:Brooklyn, New York

Occupation:Drugs

Publication Title:
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1873

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 28 Sep 2013 14:42

Could be wrong,but....I guess all those other queries out there are from you?

Has anyone found Edward and Sarah together on any US census?

Maureen

Gins

Gins Report 28 Sep 2013 15:02

No luck with the census Mo

This is the correct marriage by the look



Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name:Sarah Riley Taylor

Gender:Female

Birth Year:abt 1836

Marriage Date:28 Sep 1863

Marriage Age:27

Marriage Place:
Birmingham, Bishop Ryder, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Edward Richard Perks <<Chemist

Spouse Gender:Male

Spouse Marriage Age:30

Father:Henry Taylor

Spouse's Father:William Perks

Reference Number:EP30/2/3/4

Archive Roll:M3

Irene

Irene Report 28 Sep 2013 21:38

Hi
Thanks all for the info.
I have been in touch with the Greenwood cemetery and they have given me the burial plot number and his date of death but the New York Archives could not find a death cert for him so don't know where he died except the cemetery people were able to tell me it was an accidental death. Looks like he had a son also Edward Richard Perks who died aged 3 yrs 29 days and is also buried at Greenwood but I would have to pay to find out more details for him which I may have to consider later.

Thank you for all the directory info and the marriage info. If he was in the US five years before his naturalization you would think that he would be on a census somewhere.

I appreciate all the help very much. Thanks.

Irene

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 29 Sep 2013 02:34

But...
DO look here:
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

Have you tried??
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My idea of quotes"
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I keep trying to find what I saw on this site:
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

but I think they are doing some work on it at the moment.

IF it works again-just input Edward Perks with exact phrase ticked.

The second to last citation is your fellow.
Fell off a pier.

Maureen
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Yo Gins! Moxxxxx

Irene

Irene Report 29 Sep 2013 04:08

Hi Maureen,
I have managed to onto the site but I haven't been able to find the article you mentioned. What date were you looking at to help me narrow it down.
Thanks.
Irene

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 29 Sep 2013 04:26

Hi Irene,

No date.(Actually when you see the newspaper page it's a little ragged but obviously between Christmas and New Year's Day.)

Are you doing as I suggested?

Have you been able to see the uploaded pdf page?

If so...try mid-way down the third to last column of the page.


I'm not sure what else to suggest. :-)

Maureen

Margee

Margee Report 29 Sep 2013 11:32

The newspaper article is from the Brooklyn Union, 1883. It basically says that he had fallen into the river from the Battery pier at 7:30 p.m., had been attended by an ambulance surgeon but refused to go to hospital and his friends took him home in a coach. At 11:00 p.m. that night a doctor was called but Edward died before the doctor arrived.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 29 Sep 2013 14:44

Thanks,Margee!

Maureenxx