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Lynn

Lynn Report 16 Jul 2014 20:37

I have done other parts of my tree but left this part till last I have my great grandfather as john William linsay curran not sure of date I was given birth its 1880 or 1886 death 1947newcastle . I was told born irish but moved to byker Newcastle upon tyne where he met his wife Dorothy francis or fransis.

Margee

Margee Report 16 Jul 2014 20:42

1911 census says born 1886, Byker.

1911 England Census
about John William Lindsay Curran Name: John William Lindsay Curran
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Byker, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: All Saints
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 107 Albion Row Byker N c
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 30653
Household Members: Name Age
John William Lindsay Curran 25
Dorothy Curran 22
Maria Ellen Curran 1

Married 3 years, 2 children, one had died.



Lynn

Lynn Report 16 Jul 2014 20:45

thank you very kind of you to take the time so now I know he was born Newcastle I need to find his parents then I will be off

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Jul 2014 21:06

possible birth index
Name:
John William Curran
Registration Year:1886
Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County:
Northumberland
Volume:
10b
Page:
147

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jul 2014 21:10

Not seeing a 1947 death.

There is this one which would make him born 1886 or 1887 (depending on accuracy of age as given by informant)

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1946 (>99%)
Curran John W 59 Newcastle T. 10b 69

There is this possible birth
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
CURRAN John William Newcastle T 10b 147

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Jul 2014 21:12

Name: John William Lindsay Curran
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birthplace: Byker, Northumberland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-District: All Saints
Parish: All Saints
County: Northumberland

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Jul 2014 21:13

Name: John William Curran
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1886
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland
Event Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Volume: 10B
Page: 147
Line Number: 293

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jul 2014 21:17

?? Possible
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Westerhope, East Denton, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Castle Ward includes Gosforth but is on the opposite side of Newcastle from Byker where the 1911 has him born

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis J Curran Head Married Male 42 1859 Coal Miner Stonework Newcastle All Saints
Mary A Curran Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Newcastle All Saints
Thomas Curran Son Single Male 17 1884 Coal Mine Inclineman Newcastle All Saints
John W Curran Son Single Male 16 1885 Hauling Engine Tenter Gosforth, Northumberland
Dominic Curran Son Single Male 12 1889 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Frank Curran Son Single Male 10 1891 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Joseph Curran Son Single Male 8 1893 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Esther Curran Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Gosforth, Northumberland
James Curran Son Single Male 4 1897 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Patrick Curran Son Single Male 1 1900 - Gosforth, Northumberland
George E Curran Son Single Male 0 1901 - Westerhope,
Birth town Gosforth
Birth county Northumberland
Street Westerhope
Parish East Denton
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Municipal ward East Denton
Parliamentary borough Tyneside
Registration district Castle Ward
Enumeration district 8
Series RG13
Piece number 4818
Folio number 243
Page 37

Margee

Margee Report 16 Jul 2014 21:18

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CURRAN John William Gateshead 10a 1551
FRANCIS Dorothy Gateshead 10a 1551

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Jul 2014 21:19

might be marriage index

Name:John William Curran
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1551
Records on Page

John William Curran
Jane Ann Davidson
James Frederick Fairbairn
Dorothy Francis ******possible

Margee

Margee Report 16 Jul 2014 21:21

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CURRAN Francis Newcastle T. 10b 238
Smith Mary Ann Newcastle On Tyne 10b 238

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jul 2014 21:22

Same family 1891, another birth place
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cow Gate, Fenham, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frank Curran Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal Miner Northumberland
Mary Ann Curran Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Devonshire, Dog Bank
Thos Curran Son Single Male 7 1884 - Hare Street
John W Curran Son Single Male 6 1885 - Bentwick
Dummick Curran Son Single Male 2 1889 - Northumberland, Cowgate
Frances Curran Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Northumberland, Cowgate


Birth place (other) Bentwick
House name -
Street Cow Gate
Parish Fenham
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough Tyneside
Ecclesiastical district St James Benwell
Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Enumeration district 60
Series RG12
Piece number 4203
Folio number 66
Page 12

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jul 2014 21:28

If this is the correct census for Francis - John's father, then, the Irish connection could be Francis' mother

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Crispin Street, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Curran Head Son Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland
Katherine Curran Mother Widow Female 47 1834 - Ireland
Lorella Curran Daughter Single Female 20 1861 No Occupation Scotland
Maria Curran Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Schollar Durham, Durham
Francis Curran Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland<<<<<<<<
William Curran Son Single Male 13 1868 Coal Miner Durham, Durham
James Curran Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Durham, Durham
William Blenkinsop Lodger Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Hexham, Northumberland

House number 9
House name -
Street Crispin Street
Parish Elswick
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Series RG11
Piece number 5055
Folio 123
Page 1
Record set

Lynn

Lynn Report 17 Jul 2014 03:35

thank you everyone I will have to look at all these have no clue who to link him to without getting birth cert.very kind of you all to take the time regards lynn

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Jul 2014 12:26

A marriage cert would hopefully give you his fathers name which might be the best one to get.

Lynn

Lynn Report 17 Jul 2014 13:04

mmmmm but try otherthings first can not afford keep getting these you think I could find john William linsey curran when his name so long thanks

Mary

Mary Report 18 Jul 2014 13:34

Others on ancestry.co.uk have John William Curran 1884-1961 Newcastle son of Francis Joseph Curran and Mary Ann Smith.
The above John W married in 1909 to Elizabeth Ann Dodds 1889-1961.

There were 2 John William Currans,one born O/N/D 1884 10b 6 and the other J/F/M 1886 10b 147.

Maryb.

Lynn

Lynn Report 18 Jul 2014 15:26

hello mary all I have on my john William linsey curran was born byker Newcastle 1886 death walker Newcastle 1947 he wed Dorothy francis born 1889 death 1947 born Newcastle and he was in the war had lots of meddles do not know if he had siblings or who his parents will be I am sure it will be one of the names I was given regards lynn

Flip

Flip Report 19 Jul 2014 01:53

Hi Lynn, there is no deaths for John or Dorothy in the area in 1947. There's a possible for John in 1946 (as previously posted), but nothing for Dorothy 1945-50, there is however a death in Newcastle in 1969 which could be her (age 80).

How sure are you that they both died in the 1940s?

Looking at the freebmd they look to have had a further 5 children after the 1911 census, but 3 of those died in childhood (Sophia G, John F & Eliza A), leaving just Margaret E 1914, and John W 1923.

ADDED: Whoever registered the 1969 death did not give Dorothy's birth date, just stated born Feb.1889 - Dorothy Francis was registered JFM qtr 1889.

Lynn

Lynn Report 19 Jul 2014 04:35

this is everything I have. dorothey francis born 1889 death 1969 was wed to john William linsey curran born 1886 death 1947 .i have child born 1911 death 1911do not know anything if boy or girl. my grandmother ellen maria 1912 death 1946 Margaret e 1914 death 1966 john w 1923 death 2000. have nothing on john William linseys parents . only thing I have for his wife dorothey francis was her father john francis 1868 and his wife sophia1870 and I think she came from london my mams 80 soon I thought I wood do her a tree but have nothing . thanks for your time