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Alice Clark born Portsea Portsmouth England

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Pamela

Pamela Report 12 Aug 2014 06:36

Dear All,
Good morning. I am looking into a gr aunt of a friend of mine. Alice Clark b. 1888 or 9 in Portsea Portsmouth who emigrated to Australia. We have information from a family tree on the internet belonging to a Bernard Tasker that she died in Murrunbeena, Victoria 1966. What we don't know is:
1. When she left Englad and did she leave England unmarried
2. whats her married name (she had five sons)
How do I go about find more information ?
Regards,
Pam

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2014 07:14

1.

you could try the Australian National Archives site to see if you can find her entering the country


http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2014 07:18

Is this "your" Alice Clark in 1891????


1891 Census

Name: Alice Clark
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Louisa Clark
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Louisa Clark 31 b.ca 1860, Netherbury, Dorset, Wife of Stoker in R.N.
Charley Clark 7 b.ca 1884, Hawkley, Hampshire
May Clark 4 b.ca 1887, Portsmouth
Alice Clark 2

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2014 07:22

and in 1901



Name Age
Louisa Clark 41 b.ca 1860, Leatherbury, Dorset, Married, Laundress
Thomas Clark 19 b.ca 1882, Hawksley, Hampshire
Charles Clark 19 b.ca 1884, Hawksley <<<<<< his age on the image is actually 17
Mary Clark 14 b.ca 1887, Portsmouth
Alice Clark 12


Pamela

Pamela Report 12 Aug 2014 07:25

Yes........this is the family. Thanks Sylivian. Alice moved to Aussie. but we are at a loss to know when.
Thanks for your advice about the Australian Archives. We have two possible married names for her, Jacbos and Pinnington but at prescent this is guess work
Cheers,
Pam
Portsmouth

Pamela

Pamela Report 12 Aug 2014 07:25

Yes........this is the family. Thanks Sylivian. Alice moved to Aussie. but we are at a loss to know when.
Thanks for your advice about the Australian Archives. We have two possible married names for her, Jacbos and Pinnington but at prescent this is guess work
Cheers,
Pam
Portsmouth

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2014 07:27

trouble is ..................... she has a common name!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2014 07:32

could Jacbos be Jacobs????


Pamela

Pamela Report 12 Aug 2014 07:35

Yeaph........sorry is Jacobs. Tell me about it........... Clarke was my maiden name.............and my family of Clarkes lived in the same road as this family of Clarks !!!! :-D

Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 11:49

I'm wondering if this is her birth registration and she interchanged her name between 'Marion' & 'Alice'




Births Dec 1888
CLARK Alice Marion Portsea 2b 474


Here is a death that could be a possible


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name:Marion Alice Connor

Death Place:Murchison, Victoria

Age:77

Father's Name:Thomas Clarke

Mother's name:Louisa Legg

Registration Year:1966

Registration Place:Victoria

Registration Number:14814

Estimated birth year:abt 1889






springvale botanical cemetery Connor Marion Alice Cremated 20/07/1966
Dodonaea, Wall G, Niche 04

Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 13:00

Did she marry before she went to OZ


Marriages Sep 1908

CLARKE Marion Alice Portsmouth 2b 969
CONNOR Edward Portsmouth 2b 969


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1911 England Census


Name:Alice Marion Connor

Age in 1911:22

Estimated birth year:abt 1889

Relation to Head:Grand Child

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Empshott Hawkley

County/Island:Hampshire

Country:England

Street address:Emma Clarke, Upper Green, Hawkley, W Liss

Marital Status:Married

Years Married:2

Estimated Marriage Year:1909

Registration district:Petersfield

Registration District Number:106

Sub-registration district:Petersfield

ED, institution, or vessel:8
Household schedule number:73
Piece:6177

Household Members:


Emma Clarke 73
Alice Marion Connor 22
Alice Marion Connor 1
Edward Connor 2/12



And did Edward die in England



Deaths Dec 1927 (>

Connor Edward 41 Portsmouth 2b 638


Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 13:07

Wonder if this is her. The address given is 5 Queens Grove, Purbrook, this is very close to Portsmouth



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:Marion A Connor

Gender:Female

Age:65

Birth Date:abt 1888

Departure Date:4 Jun 1953

Port of Departure:London, England

Destination Port:Melbourne, Australia

Ship Name:Mooltan

Shipping line:P and O

Official Number:79866

Master:H P Mallet

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Been digging around and I'm pretty sure that this is her husband. For the full details at the National Archives, you would need to pay £3.30



Reference:ADM 337/30/289

Name Connor, Edward
Service Number: Z/8514
RNVR Division: Clyde
Date of Birth: 28 July 1888

Date: 1915-1917

Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Former references: in its original department: Vol No 12

Legal status: Public Record

Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 17:53

I think this is one of Marion Alice' sons



UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name:C T Connor <<Of 19 Queens Grove, Purbrook, Portsmouth, Gov Officer

Birth Date:abt 1924

Age:28

Port of Departure:Sydney, Australia

Arrival Date:17 Mar 1952

Port of Arrival:London, England

Ports of Voyage:
Colombo[Bombay]

Ship Name:Carthage


Shipping line:Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd

Official Number:162658



Edit:


Births Jun 1924

Connor Cyril T Clarke Portsmouth 2b 709

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2014 19:43

Hello Pam, on which site does Bernard Tasker have this information?

Is it not possible to contact him for further info?

Mary

Mary Report 12 Aug 2014 20:00

Louisa legg born 1860 Netherbury Dorset married Charles Clark 2/11/1879.
Her dad Job Legg his dad George Clark.

George Clarke 1832 married Emma Meacham according to trees on ancestry,please check.

So looks like the Emma Clark off 1911 census above.

Maryb.

Pamela

Pamela Report 13 Aug 2014 06:33

To Gins, Mary and Marie Celeste,
Good morning all.
Can't thank you all enouth for your help............due to my friend having very little knowledge of her gr aunt this quest has been like a "brick wall"............but all of what you have found makes sense........... the most confusing thing is the name "Marion", ........Bernard Tasker, I found out yester is on GR, so have left a message for him and two other poeple that look like they have this Alice Clark on their trees. My friend is hoping to find relatives in Aussie before she goes there in October. I will follow all your information up.
Regards,
Pam near uk :-D :-D

Pamela

Pamela Report 13 Aug 2014 06:34

To Gins, Mary and Marie Celeste,
Good morning all.
Can't thank you all enouth for your help............due to my friend having very little knowledge of her gr aunt this quest has been like a "brick wall"............but all of what you have found makes sense........... the most confusing thing is the name "Marion", ........Bernard Tasker, I found out yester is on GR, so have left a message for him and two other poeple that look like they have this Alice Clark on their trees. My friend is hoping to find relatives in Aussie before she goes there in October. I will follow all your information up.
Regards,
Pam near uk :-D :-D

Pamela

Pamela Report 13 Aug 2014 07:04

PS reading through your information.......it looks like Alice emigrated with her son in the 50's and not as myfriend thouth in the 1900's. Cheers
Pam

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Aug 2014 02:47

Hi Pam

I only just found this, from Gins but I see she has already posted this death!

Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985
Surname: CONNOR
Given Names: Marion Alice
Father: Clarke Thomas
Mother: Louisa LEGG
Death Place: MURR
Age: 77
Year: 1966
Reg Number: 14814
Event: D


It is Murrumbeena by the by (not Murrunbeena), Are those parents names correct?

you mentioned other possible surnames, nothing for Pinnington

Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985
Surname: JACOBS
Given Names: Alice Mary
Father: Clark Hy Chas
Mother: Emily DENMAN
Death Place: OLEIGH
Age: 65
Year: 1952
Reg Number: 12379
Event: D

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Aug 2014 02:49

Possible deaths for her husband?

Surname: CONNOR
Given Names: Edw
Father: Connor John Alfred
Mother: Ellen GROUBSKY
Death Place: BDALE
Age: 55
Year: 1943
Reg Number: 15072
Event: D

Surname: CONNOR
Given Names: Edward
Father: Unknown
Mother: UNKNOWN
Death Place: FRAN
Age: 78
Year: 1975
Reg Number: 22250
Event: D