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Adriana

Adriana Report 19 Oct 2014 13:14

Hello, my father recently died on the day of my mother's funeral. I am searching for any of his relatives. His mother was Grace Alice Raymond and Grandparents were James and Rose Raymond. Any help will be appreciated.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Oct 2014 13:21

How very sad for you and your family Adriana <3 <3

I would love to be of help but we need a few more details please so we can make a start.

Do you have any details of dates and places for your father, his mother or his grandparents please?

Dea Xxx

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 13:26

Sorry for your loss Adriana - it must have been a nightmare at the time

You have Relation Name: Grace Alice Raymond
Date of Birth: 1912
Place of Birth: England

Is that a best-guess or documented?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 13:28

???

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Raymond Grace A Weavers Sudbury 4a 1675

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 13:40


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about James Raymond
Name: James Raymond
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 1307

Rosa Weavers

A tree on Ancestry has

James Raymond
Birth abt 1861 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death 5 December 1952 in Bulmer, Essex


Rose Weavers
Birth abt 1873 in Henny, Suffolk, England
Death 2 November 1947 in Halstead, Essex, England

Their children to 1911

Oliver James Raymond
Birth 23 Feb 1894 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death Mar 1976 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England

John Edward Raymond
Birth 2 Jul 1896 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death Jun 1989 in Braintree, Essex, England

Frederick Raymond
Birth 1899 in Bulmer, Essex
Death

Ernest Alfred Raymond
Birth abt 1900 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death Sep 1969 in Chelmsford, Essex, England

Woodford Charles Raymond
Birth 22 November 1902 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death 15 January 1964 in Halstead, Essex, England

Winfred Raymond
Birth abt 1904 in Bulmer, Essex, England
Death

Percy Raymond
Birth January 1906 in Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Death Oct 1993 in Chichester, Sussex, England

James Raymond
Birth 31 May 1908 in Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Death Dec 1995 in Bury St edmunds, Suffolk, England


Sidney Charles Raymond
Birth 10 Aug 1910 in Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Death Dec 1978 in Brentwood, Essex, England

In addition, Freebmd give the following births (exluding Grace)
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Raymond Charles Weavers Sudbury 4a 1669

Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Raymond Herbert Weavers Sudbury 4a 1174

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 13:46


1901 England Census about James Raymond
Name: James Raymond
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Rose Raymond
Birth Place: Bulmer, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Bulmer
Town: Bulmer
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:Halstead Road, Bulmer

Registration district: Sudbury
Sub-registration district: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1741
Folio: 53
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 12

Name Age
James Raymond 39 - Ag Lab
Rose Raymond 28
Oliver Raymond 7
John Raymond 4
Frederick Raymond 2



1911 England Census about James Raymond
Name: James Raymond
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bulmer, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Westbury Hills, Gestingthorpe, C Hedingham, Essex
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Sudbury
Registration District Number: 205
Sub registration district: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 10532

Name Age
James Raymond 48
Rose Raymond 38 - married 19 yrs. 10 live births, 1 death)
Amey Weavers 27 (sister)
Oliver James Raymond 17
John Edward Raymond 14
Fredrick Raymond 13
Ernest Raymond 11
Woodford Raymond 9
Winfred Raymond 7
Percy Raymond 5
James Raymond 3
Sidney Raymond 7/12

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 13:50

If you are looking for living relatives, then use the names to search all members trees, and contact anyone who has the names listed.

Also trace them forward on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl to find their marriages then the births of their children

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Oct 2014 14:43

Hello Adriana,

That is sad news indeed and you must be in a whirl. We will do our best to help.



(I will let Adriana know how to find her replies). :-)

Adriana

Adriana Report 19 Oct 2014 14:56

Thank you all ever so much for helping me, much appreciated. I also know that Grace married my fathers dad George Albert born 1908 Camden, however there does not see to be a way to trace him.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2014 15:05

Is Albert his surname? Did they actually marry, or co-habit?
If you have a copy of the MC, his father's name and occupation if known will help you to find them on census. Witnesses may also be from the paternal side

Adriana

Adriana Report 19 Oct 2014 15:20

I know that they got married in 1939 at hampstead. His name was George Albert Ford and they got divorced (i am unaware of the date) but Grace got remarried in 1947 so it must be within that period.

patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 15:24

Marriages Mar 1939
Ford George A Raymond Halstead 4a 1279
Raymond Grace A Ford Halsteax 4a 1279

Marriages Jun 1947
Ford Grace A Hamblin Halstead 4a 1524
Hamblin Thomas J Ford Halstead 4a 1524
Hamblin Thomas J Raymond Halstead 4a 1524
Raymond Grace A Hamblin Halstead 4a 1524

Added:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Grace Alice Hamblin
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1912 Date of Registration: Dec 1982 Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Bury St edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10 Page: 2433

patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 15:31

As Detective said, marriage certificate for more information about George Albert Ford.

Added:
Sorry, you have said born 1908 Camden - so birth certificate?

Choccy

Choccy Report 19 Oct 2014 15:32


Oddly there is a tree on Ancestry which has this -


Marriages Sep 1938

Ford George A Ray Hampstead 1a 2082
Ray Annie M Ford Hampstead 1a 2082

George Albert Ford born 18th Dec 1908, Hendon, Buckinghamshire - died Oct 1986 in Camden

(only mentioning as Hampstead and Camden referred to by Adriana)


patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 15:37

Free bmd does not throw up a George A Ford nor an Albert G Ford born anywhere from 1907 to 1909. (Apart from a George Albert in Grimsby).

patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 15:43

This one could have been born in December 1909, and death date was a year out?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
George Albert Ford
Registration Year: 1910 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St Olave Bermondsey
Parishes for this Registration District: Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d Page: 192

Adriana

Adriana Report 19 Oct 2014 16:36

Think i found George Albert Ford who died in 1986 but cant find out where he would have been buried or if he had any living family ie, daughters or sons.

Thank you so very much for all your help it is so very gratefully received and has restored my faith in humanity <3

patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 18:39

The death certificate will have the name of the informant, who could be a relative.

patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 18:54

The family tree that Choccy mentioned has a photo for their George Albert Ford, 1908 - 1986, and 2 children, both of whom died before George, as did his wife.

Adriana

Adriana Report 19 Oct 2014 19:05

i do not have an ancestry account, so would someone be able to send me the photograph?