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Albert Harper and Lilian Harper South Yorkshire

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Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 19:43

Hello, I am trying to find anything I can about my grandparents from edlington south Yorkshire. I am trying to find more info about Albert Harper because I have tried searching for information but I am really struggling.
My granddad worked in the pit at edlington, he was born in 1920 in stoke on Trent I think. and he died 1991 in edlington.

Hope to hear from anyone who can help.
Regards Sarah.

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 21 Jun 2015 19:46

What sort of info are you trying to find.

Chris

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 19:48

What information are you trying to find please? You know when he was born and died, who he married and at least one of his children.

If you are looking for his parents, that information will be on his birth certificate.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 19:50

Albert Harper
Birth Date: 25 Sep 1920
Date of Registration: Mar 1991
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 543

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 21 Jun 2015 19:51

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Harper Albert Leese Cheadle 6b 641a

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 19:56

He was born in 1920 in stoke on trent and had one brother but don't know his name but he could of had more brothers and sisters.

He married Lilian Dawson in Edlington South Yorkshire. They had 7 children 6 boys and 1 girl. The girl is called Mary Elizabeth Ethel harper.

How would I find his birth certificate?

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 19:57

Thank you I will look it up. x

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 21 Jun 2015 19:59

You can order certificates from the GRO using the info I posted.

www.gro.gov.uk/


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:01

His marriage certificate will give his father's name and occupation.

Marriages Jun 1944
DAWSON Lilian Harper Don Valley 9c 1881
HARPER Albert Dawson Don Valley 9c 1881

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 21 Jun 2015 20:02

You could order his marriage certificate as that would name his father. This should confirm that any birth certificate you order is the correct one.

You can search freebmd putting in the surname Harper, Leese for mothers maiden name with quite a few years either side of 1920 and see if there are any other births. I'v already done that and also looked for marriages of the parents but there are two possible couples.

Chris

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:04

His brother?

Births Jun 1915
Harper George Leese Cannock 6b 950

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 20:04

Thank you so much for your help, im new to this and was a bit stuck. x

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 20:07

I will look at all the information you both have helped me with thank you both for your time. x

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 21 Jun 2015 20:07

Ask away, there is always someone willing to help. Better to ask rather than go wrong and research the wrong family.

Just make sure that if you want to ask anything else about him add it to this thread. Understandably people get upset if additional threads are started about the same person and end up doing duplicate research, it's against the rules too.

Chris

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:10

As his daughter had Elizabeth as a middle name, this is a possibility BUT as Chris has said, get his marriage certificate first to make sure that you research the correct family.

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

Harper George Uttoxeter 6b 665
Leese Elizabeth Uttoxeter 6b 665

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Jun 2015 20:10

I think getting the marriage certificate first as Rootgatherer suggested would be your best bet as that will name his father. If you order any birth certificate without knowing his father's name it could be the wrong one.

Kath. x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:13

This has been very badly mistranscibed but does prove that the marriage I posted was a George and Elizabeth

George Harper
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Place: Rouster, Staffordshire, England
[Rocester]
Marriage Date: 13 May 1911
Marriage Place: Uttosceter
Age: 18
Document Year: 1900
Regimental Number: 6283
Regiment Name: N.Stafford.Regt
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 5
Other Records: Search for 'George Harper' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Harper Self (Head)
Elizabeth Seese Spouse
Mary Elizabeth Harper Child b. 28/7/11 Rocester
George Harper Child b. 18/3/15 Cannock

Witnesses to marriage Joseph Henshaw and Annie Harper

George's father is given as George and his mother Mary.

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jun 2015 20:23

I think his mum was called Elizabeth because my mum Mary Elizabeth Ethel Harper was given her Grandmothers first names as her middle names. Ethel is the name of my mums grandmother Lilian's Dawsons mum.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:27

1891

George Harper
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: George Harper
Mother's name: Mary Harper
Gender: Male
Where born: Rocester, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Rocester
Ecclesiastical parish: Rocester St Michael
Town: Rocester
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2193
Folio: 23
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
George Harper 42
Mary Harper 40
William Henry Harper 17
Frederic Harper 14
George Harper 11
Albert Harper 6
Robert Harper 4
Edward Harper 2
Emma Eliz Harper under 1 year


George won't be on the 1901 census as his military records show that he served in South Africa during the Boer War

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 20:29

1881

George Harper
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son (Child)
Father: George Harper
Mother: Mary Harper
Gender: Male
Where born: Rocester, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Rocester
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 5 High St
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2749
Folio: 26
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George Harper 32
Mary Harper 29
William H. Harper 7
Frederic Harper 4
George Harper 1