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trying to find the death of albert. married Margaret Caton 1904 islington london
Last child was born 1918 3rd qtr. Margaret remarried a Patrick Tobin in 1927
I have found possible death 1917 Probably not the right one.military record no G/19609 Duke of Cambridges Reg (Middx reg)
Could some one look this record up for me please?

This is likely the record you mean - doesn't look like the right man:

Edward Albert Jones
in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Edward Albert Jones
Birth Place: Islington, Middlesex
Residence: London, N.
Death Date: 24 Nov 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Holloway, Middlesex
Rank: Private
Regiment: Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex) Regiment
Battalion: 21st Battalion
Regimental Number: G/19609 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

AG
Thank you , yes that is the one I found Idid think that maybe record would show wifes name?
I am not sure that he did died in WW1, as last child born late in 1918. but I can not find another. The only photo his wife had on show was him in army uniform/ Margaret remarried in 1927, so will have to look again between 1918 and 1927, so not too bad

A tree on Ancestry says your Albert's middle name was Alan, and he died in 1973 in Islington.

As dubious "proof" they give the image of the 4th qr 1973 death index, and I suppose the death they mean is this one:

Deaths Dec 1973 (>99%)
JONES ALBERT ALAN ABOUT1885 ENFIELD 5B 305

I don't know if it's correct, or just a guess on the tree owner's part.

EDIT:
Actually, looking further into the tree, it's not entirely accurate, to put it mildly.
For one thing, it doesn't mention Margaret's second marriage.

Nor does it mention the children posted below by safc.

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
JONES Norah M Caton Islington 1b 516
Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Jones Edward M Caton Islington 1b 370

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Jones Henry Caton Islington 1b 775 xxxxxxxxxxxxx

There is this one
ALBERT
Last name JONES
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1883
Age 62
Death quarter 4
Death year 1945
District ISLINGTON
County London
Volume 1B
Page 234
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Not my Albert Jones.
He was dead before 1925( have marriage cert of daughter Nellie, )and his widow remarried in 1927. Does not appear to have a middle name, The family had flower stall in Chapel street market, which was taken over later by his younger son Eddie.

Safc
That birth was the youngest child so correct.
1920 not same family

AG the tree on ancestry, does it say who,s tree?

Could this be him, know the residence slightly out

Name: Albert Jones
Birth Place: Tooting, Surrey
Residence: Streatham, Surrey
Death Date: 3 Oct 1918
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Lambeth, Surrey
Rank: Private
Regiment: Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment
Battalion: 1st 5 Battalion
Regimental Number: 103005
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 1112, East Surrey Regt.

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 (Ancestry)

(have you looked around on above two?, presuming you have addresses for family)

Chris :)

Could he have returned injured/gassed and died through that or even caught Spanish Flu during the epidemic and died?

Can I just put this up for reference- is this him?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3a Parkfield St Islington N, Islington, London, England

Albert Jones Head Married Male General Dealer 29 1882 London Clerkenwell
Margerette Jones Wife Married Female Florist 24 1887 London Islington
Nellie Jones Daughter - Female - 6 1905 London Islington
Albert Jones Jun Son - Male - 2 1909 London Clerkenwell
Millie Jones Daughter - Female - 0 1911 London Islington
Ellen Andrews Aunt Widow Female Housekeeper 59 1852 London Clerkenwell

Above is listed as Albert Archibald in 1922 (still at same address)- and with Margaret

Name: Albert Archibald-J Jones
Year: 1922
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and South
Street address: 3a PARKFIELD STREET

EDIT: Still listed at same address in 1925
-----------------------------

Margaret & Patrick Tobin at same address in 1932

And Margaret still at same address in 1939 (badly transcribed!). Caton family living next door.

Robon Household (2 People) 3 Parkfield Street , Islington, London, England
Amelia Walker 15 Aug 1910 Female Handwork Smokee Single (Jones crossed out)
Margaret Robon 07 Aug 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Married

There is also 2 closed records and a Daniel Fitzgerald (24th Aug 1884), master greengrocer, at the same address. (for some reason he's not showing on the transcription.)

Based on the above- possible death:

First name(s) ALBERT A
Last name JONES
Gender Male
Birth year 1881
Age 44
Death quarter 4
Death year 1925
District HACKNEY
County London
Volume 1B Page 595

(Fits with him being on electoral register in 1925)

(well done there AQ!, can only see below)

Chris :)


Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
JONES Albert 42 London C. 1c 21

(comes up on DO website as below, perhaps died in hospital)

Burial Register summary
Jones Albert
Burial date
30 August 1923
Authority London Borough of Islington
Location Islington Cemetery (Islington)


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abneypark/name/names-jon000.html

(was looking for Albert A. one in Abney Park Burials above)


Edits (looking at Electoral, 1911, 3a Parkfield, notes under 'Landlord or Name and address of other Person to whom Rent is paid' Mrs. E. Caton 3a Parkfield St.)


(ah!, probably why Nathaniel is listed there also)

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------
Caton Ellen Islington 1b 778
Hoy Nathaniel Islington 1b 778


(just to add snippet below for above!)

28 November 1907 - London Daily News - London, London, England

DROVE INTO A CROWD.
A costermonger named Nathaniel Hoy was fined £5 and costs at Highgate yesterday for running over an old lady with a cart he was driving at East Finchley. Hoy drove between the kerb and a crowd of people about to enter a tramcar. The lady had been confined to bed for five weeks in consequence of the injuries she received.

Chris
Think you have the right one, as he was dead by june 1925,. on Nellies mariage Cert
Ellen Caton Margaret's sister, and N Hoy where the witness on Albert/Margret marriage cert
Chris, does it say date of death, as burial 30th Aug, so I guess sometime in August?


Austin , not him, see above note to Chris. re 1939 census, Robin should be Tobin, and I believe that Amelia Walker, may have married John Jones, need to check that out
Thanks again for your help, with the name Jones it gets difficult.

Re Amelia Walker, not married to John, but will check Eddie

Pauline, you asked yesterday whose tree it is on Ancestry.

The tree's called Morgan Family Tree, and the tree owner is "Waterplate"

He/she seems to have assumed that Albert and Margaret continued to be married to each other until Margaret's death, which Waterplate says (without proof) was in 1954. But whatever death they think is hers will be that of a Margaret Jones, so not correct.

Have you checked birth for below, or found Albert with Father name from Marriage Cert.?

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Jones Albert Archibald Holborn 1b 736


(a Jack Caton also with them 1925, and a John and Elizabeth Caton at 1, Parkfield Street.)


https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(you need to purchase vouchers to view Burial entries, for Address etc.)

(or might be a case of buying both Death Certs., and hope one fits!)

Chris :)

Edits (no time to check further!, but listed as below, Born 26th July 1881)

All London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)

Albert Archibald Jones
28 Aug 1881 Clerkenwell St Philip Islington George Haynes Jones,
Mary Ann Elizabeth Jones
(Abode, 9 Noble Street, Father occ. Warehouseman)


Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
JONES George Haynes Holborn 1b 1027
WILDMAN Mary Ann E Holborn 1b 1027

(who is his Father from 1904 Marriage Cert.?)


(is this yourself from 'Search All Member Trees')

Relation Name: Albert Jones
Date of Birth: 1882
Place of Birth: Clarkewell london


Relation Name: Margaret Caton
Date of Birth: 1886
Place of Birth: London

Pauline,

I would look into Austin's findings...the constancy of the address is appealing.

Maybe they had become estranged by the time of Nellie's wedding?

Jude