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Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Aug 2016 10:09

I have an ancestor, Cornelius Crosbee/Crosbie/Crosby, born in Birmingham c1841 to Henry and Harriett. He appears on the 1851 census with them. He his baptised in 1854.

He next appears(several times) in the Criminal Records in the 1850's and 1860's, finally appearing to be transported to Australia in 1866. I can see the record of his arrival and there is a possible crew list in 1873. I then loose track of him.

He is not on 1861 census in his own name. unless he is one of the 'C C' entries as an inmate.

Can anyone find any further record of him please?

There is a possible death in Prestwich in 1922 that might be him.

I don't need any other family info, its only Cornelius I'm chasing.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Andy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:18

For helpers' reference:

Cornelius Crosby
in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Date of Trial: 30 Mar 1863
Trial Year: 1863
Location of Trial: Warwickshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment

Sentenced to 7 years for larceny and housebreaking after previous conviction.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Aug 2016 11:18

?????
Cornelius Crosby

in the Western Australia, Australia, Convict Records, 1846-1930
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Date: 20 May 1868
Record Type: Convict Establishment, Stamp Books
Reference Number: ACC 1156/S4-S6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:21

Cornelius Crosby
in the Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Vessel: Corona
Convicted Date: 31 Mar 1863
Voyage Date: 13 Oct 1866
Colony: Western Australia
Place of Conviction: Warwickshire, England

Date of conviction: 31st March 1863.
Term: 7 years

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:23

Cornelius Crosby
in the Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Arrival Port: Newcastle, NSW
Departure Date: 31 Jul 1873
Departure Port: Albany
Destination Port: New South Wales
Vessel Name: Chrysolite




Cornelius Crosby
in the Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Arrival Port: Newcastle
Departure Date: 1 Aug 1873
Departure Port: Albany
Destination Port: New South Wales
Vessel Name: Chrysolite

>>> He's a passenger, not a crew member.

malyon

malyon Report 30 Aug 2016 11:28




Cornelius Crosby

England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records

Name Cornelius Crosby
Event Type Workhouse admission
Event Date 1901
Event Year 1900 - 1901
Event Place Lancashire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2016 11:29

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-WA-CONVICT/2005-10/1128648644

(found above from 'google')

List of ex-convicts travelling to Newcastle NSW from WA
Crosby Cornelius 05/07/1873)

Chris :)

Edits

All of these men were Imperial Convicts sent to Western Australia and when they had received their Certificate of Freedom or Conditional Pardon, all moved to Newcastle NSW The Colonial Secretary of Western Australia sent to the Colonial Secretary of NSW a full convict history of the first to arrive in 1873, including their original place of trial, native place and a physical description.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-WA-CONVICT/2005-10/1129287889

(not sure Ancestry has Freedom/Pardon Records for 1873)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:30

???

C Crosby
in the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Name: C Crosby
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Age: 62
Port of Departure: Ocean Island
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 17 Mar 1903
Vessel Name: Mintaro


Well, maybe not - it says born Sunderland .
Crew member - Assistant Supercargo (?)

malyon

malyon Report 30 Aug 2016 11:31



Cornelius Crosby

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Cornelius Crosby
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1894
Registration District Leeds
County Yorkshire
Event Place Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Volume 9B
Page 598
Line Number 300

Cornelius Crosby probably married one of the following people
Name William Henry Hemingway
Name Martha Ann Kershaw
Name Susan Raper













Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Aug 2016 11:33

if you don't have this


England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription

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First name(s) Cornelius
Last name Crosby
Occupation Pearl Button Maker
Age 15
Birth year 1841
Year 1856
Date 20 Oct 1856
Crime Larceny ------------- a loaf of bread
Sentence duration 1
Place -
Court Birmingham
County -
Source Pankhurst Prison Registers. Volume 1
Series HO24
Piece number 15
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

senence 1 year imp

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Aug 2016 11:36

????????????????

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription

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First name(s) Cornelius
Last name Crosby
Age 53
Birth year 1841
Occupation General Dealer
Year 1894
Date 04 Dec 1894
Court Town Hall Leeds
Place Yorkshire
Victim's first name(s) Clara
Victim's last name Mitchell
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The Assizes
Series HO140
Piece number 157
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

indictment ignored by jury

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:47

Extremely long shot! Probably not relevant , but will post in case.


C Mrs Crosby
in the Web: Victoria, Australia, Outward Passenger Index, 1852-1915
Name: C Mrs Crosby
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 50
Departure Date: Feb 1889
Departure Place: Victoria, Australia
Destination: London Via Ports
Ship: ROME I
Ship's Master: ADAMSON A W
Page: 2


Also on that voyage (but don't know if they're related or not - some couldn't be) :

Mr C Crosby, 59 <<<<<<<<<<<
Infant Crosby, 1
Mr H Crosby, 20
Mr J F Crosby, 26 - too old to be a son of Cornelius
Miss M Crosby, 34 - also too old

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 11:55

Perhaps you should buy the 1922 death cert, Andy, just to rule it out (or in!)

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Aug 2016 11:55

Thanks to everyone. Some great info here.

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Aug 2016 12:03

The 1894 marraige found by Malyon is correct. He married Susan Raper. His father Henry was a button maker.

Name: Cornelins Crosby
Birth Year: abt 1845
Age: 49
Marriage or Bann Date: 19 Feb 1894
Parish: Leeds, All Saints, Yorkshire, England
Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Spouse: Susan Raper
Father: Henry Crosby
Spouse Father: Joshua Crosby


Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Aug 2016 12:10


Cornelius Crosbie
Find A Grave Index
Name Cornelius Crosbie
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1922
Event Place Miles Platting, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Photograph Included N
Death Date 18 May 1922
Affiliate Record Identifier 138583451
Cemetery Philips Park Cemetery
Citing this Record

"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK18-XPS6 : 15 December 2015), Cornelius Crosbie, 1922; Burial, Miles Platting, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, Philips Park Cemetery; citing record ID 138583451, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2016 12:15

Re the 1894 marriage posted by Malyon -

William Henry Hemingway married Martha Ann (in 1911 she calls herself Ruth Ann), so that Cornelius must have married Susan.


Henry Hemingway
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Henry Hemingway
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Martha Ann Hemingway
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4202
Folio: 119
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hemingway 24
Martha Ann Hemingway 23
James Dalton Hemingway 3
Walter Hemingway 1


Possibly that Cornelius:

Cornelius Crosby
in the 1911 England Census Summary Books
Name: Cornelius Crosby
Number of Males: 1
Number of Females: 2
Household schedule number: 201
Street address: 28 Alma Street
Civil Parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: Halifax St James
County/Island: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911
Registration district: Halifax
Registration District Number: 496
Sub-registration district: Halifax South
Sub-Registration District Number: 5
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1528

I can't see him in the actual 1911 census, nor Cornelius and Susan in 1901 or 1911.

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Aug 2016 12:29

This is the 1911 for Cornelius, so can rule him out

Cornelius Crossley 57
Mary Ellen Crossley 55
Beatrice Crossley 19


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Aug 2016 16:42

Have now found Susan/Susannah in 1901 under her maiden name of Crossley. No sign of Cornelius, yet. Turning into quite a saga chasing this branch, more criminality than the rest of my tree.


Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2016 16:55

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324?d=asc

(wonder if Cherilyn would find anything more, might be worth a try!)

Chris :)