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Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:00
	I'm getting really frustrated. I've been searching Genes and Ancestry records to try and find Daisy's first marriage. Daisy married a man who was already married therefore the marriage didn't count but Daisy didn't know this for several years - but surely there would still be a record somewhere? Daisy and this man had a child known as either Dorothy or Joan. I know her as Aunty Joan but as a child she was known as Dorothy. No one knows who the father is at all, but surely there has to be a record somewhere of her first marriage? I know there won't be any divorce papers due to the fact it wasn't a legit marriage. That's all I got, it was a huge secret. But I really, really want to try and find Joan's father because he's got another family and it's interested, plus Joan is still alive and never knew her father or family. (Although her step father was amazing.) Just to clarify, Daisy married Fred Graham in 1929. So it's not him, and the marriage is before that. :-( :-(
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:10
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) DAISY L Last name WEST Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1929 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ DAISY L WEST married FREDERICK G GRAHAM Spouse's last name GRAHAM District POOLE District number - County Dorset Country England
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:11
	When/where was Joan born? Andy
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:14
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	Is this Daisy's birth? Just to get an idea of age, so we know from what year she may have married first - England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) DAISY LILY Last name WEST Birth year 1902 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District ALVERSTOKE County Hampshire Country England Volume 2B Page 566 but would go with this death in the Poole RD England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription First name(s) DAISY LILY Last name GRAHAM Gender Female Birth day 15 Birth month 5 Birth year 1901 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1981 District POOLE County Dorset Volume 23 Page 0746
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:14
	Greyghost, that's the second marriage in 1929, so it's not that. The first marriage was before then with a different man. Andrew, Joan was born in London, literally between the bow bells or something.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:14
	Greyghost, yes that's the correct Daisy.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:22
	Daisy L Graham on the 1939 Register 1939 Register Transcription Graham Household (4 People) 2 Asquith Cottages King Street , Poole M.B., Dorset, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Daisy L Graham 15 May 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 178 2 Frederick G Graham 24 Oct 1908 Male General Labourer Heavy Worker Married 178 1 Phyllis Phillips (Graham) 26 Jan 1931 Female At School Single 178 5 Muriel D J Morris (West,Graham) 28 Aug 1923 Female Power Press Operator At Metal Carpenter Factory Single 178 7 Ref: RG101/6926C/017/11 Letter Code: WKFR© Findmypast Ltd Open a closed record Request a living person's record Close an open record Report an error
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:23
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	Yes, I know Fred was the second marriage - gives an idea of area possibly Thought the names and places sounded familiar http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1361993
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:26
	Yeah I was trying to trace back in Daisys family which is done, as far as I want to go at the mo, but I want to find her first marriage. I'm not 100% sure how long she was with the man for but Joan was born 1926 and then Daisy remarried 1929. So I guess it all happened quickly. Just want to know who Joans father is really.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:26
	Fred and Daisy married in Dorset. When Daisy was disowned she moved this way, whereas she lived in London and that's where Joan was.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	10 Sep 2016 17:27
	Births Dec 1923 (>99%) West Muriel D J West Alverstoke 2b 821 Andy
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 18:08
	What about Muriel?
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	10 Sep 2016 18:14
	Print transcription View image First name(s) MURIEL D J Last name WEST Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1939 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ MURIEL D J WEST married RALPH F MORRIS Spouse's last name MORRIS District POOLE District number - County Dorset Country England Volume 5A Page 1328 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 18:15
	Muriel D J is not Joan Dorothy West. Joan did not marry a Ralph Morris. I am looking for Joan Dorothy West's father.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	10 Sep 2016 18:23
	England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) MURIEL DOROTHY J Last name MORRIS Gender Female Birth day 28 Birth month 8 Birth year 1923 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 2006 District CHELMSFORD District number 4681D Register number D11G Entry number 036 Date of registration mm/yy 0206 County Essex Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 64 Send Message	Natasha	Report	10 Sep 2016 18:24
	This has nothing to do with Muriel Dorothy Morris.
	Researching: ANSTIS - Devon, Plymouth, New Zealand CAPLICE - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset CARTER - Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Wales FISHER - Dorset GRAHAM - Dorset, Durham HANNAFORD - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire LANGTRY - Hampshire MALLOWS - London, Surrey, Dorset, Northamptonshire MARLER - Hampshire, Italy RYAN - Tipperary, Ireland, Dorset SCORER - Dorset VOLLER - Hampshire, Sussex, Dorset WEST - Hampshire, Dorset WITT - London, Dorset [email protected] if you wish to contact me. For Ancestry/Genealogy/DNA/Genes/GEDMATCH etc only.
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,461 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	10 Sep 2016 20:56
	If it was a bigamous mariage that was annulled then you won't find any gro ref for it
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,461 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	10 Sep 2016 21:12
	Do you know Joan's actual birthdate It may be possible to narrow it done on FreeBMD with mmn west
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,461 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	10 Sep 2016 21:16
	Possibly ??? Births Jun 1926 Webb Joan D Webb Hackney 1b 615 West Joan D West Hackney 1b 615 This would indicate the parents weren't married but the father is named on the birth cert So if this is her then there was no marriage
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Sep 2016 22:07
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,495 Send Message	A friend of mine married, the groom was a bigamist, but the GRO reference is still there. I think this has been "discussed" on recent threads. Marrying and discovering he was a bigamist may have been a better story than no Father to name.

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