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Hi
This is a reply from 20 th December 2016
Herbert Harold Taylor Birth Date 1900 8 th June Nottinghamshire

Regarding Herbert Harold Taylors Army Papers

I just wonder which sight they came from
I,looked today in the Library on Ancestry,Co Uk but could find the records
So I just wonder if some one could help me please
Thankyou
Olive

Goodmorning
I wonder if anyone has
Find my Past 21 year Census Please

I am looking for
Herbert Harold Taylor born 08 th June 1899 Nottingham
Wife
Eliza Taylor born 31st August 1899 Nottingham
(Nee Wilson )first marriage Taylor second marriage Jackson)

Eliza married Herbert H Taylor 1917 Nottingham

So I just wondered where
Herbert H Taylor and Eliza Taylor were living in 1921 Nottingham Please
Thankyou
Olive Jean
Hope this makes sense !!!

Good morning
I wonder if anyone ,has access to 1921 Census please
Thankyou
Olive Jean

I don't have access to see the address without paying, but this is presumably Harold in 1921:

Herbert Harold
Taylor
1899
[Place of birth] Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
[Residence ] St Margaret Intra
Medway
Kent


Eliza doesn't seem to be with him, unless the transcription is wrong.

Did they have children before 1921, whom we could look for, which might help find Eliza?

Here they are in 1939, in case you haven't got that.

[ EDIT: Oops, I see this was posted earlier in this thread, in 2016.]:

Herbert H Taylor
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Herbert H Taylor
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1899
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 168 Beckley Road
Residence Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Navvy on Road Work
Line Number: 22
Schedule Number: 331
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Rmkq
Borough: Nottingham
Registration district: 430-4-B31
Inferred Spouse:
Eliza Taylor
Inferred Children:
Thomas Taylor
Arthur Taylor
Charles Taylor
Frances Taylor
Eric Taylor
Household Members (Name) Age
Herbert H Taylor 40
Eliza Taylor 40
Thomas Taylor 15
This record is officially closed.
Arthur Taylor 9
Charles Taylor 7
Frances Taylor 5
Eric Taylor 4

Son Thomas was born in Nottingham in 1924.

The full transcript of the result posted by ArgyllGran

1921 Census Of England & Wales
H M Borstal Instn, Borstal, Rochester, St Margaret Intra, Kent, England

First name(s) Herbert Harold
Last name Taylor
Sex Male
Birth year 1899
Census date 19 June 1921
Age in years 22
Age as transcribed 22 y
Relationship to head Inmate
Marital status Single
Birth place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Birth town Nottingham
Birth county Nottinghamshire
Birth country England
Birth place as transcribed Nottinghamshire, Nottingham
Occupation Rivetter
Occupation code 255
Occupation code with suffix 255/8
Employer Cohens Foundry, (Out Of Work)
Employer code 133
Place of work At Institution
Language used to complete form English
Person making return Governor
House name H M Borstal Instn
Street Borstal, Rochester
Address H M Borstal Instn Borstal, Rochester
Institution name H.M. Borstal Institution Borstal Rochester
Institution description H.M. Borstal Institution, Borstal, Rochester
Parish St Margaret Intra
Registration district Medway
Registration district number 47
Sub-district Rochester & Chatham
Sub-district number 1
Enumeration district number 49
County Kent
Country England
Parliamentary borough or division Rochester PB, Chatham Div.
Archive The National Archives
Archive series RG 15
Piece number 04069
District reference RD 47 RS 1 ED 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55
Schedule type code PPP
Schedule type Prison, multiple page, 70+ entries
Other household member's first name(s) -
Other household member's last name -
Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England

© Findmypast
Herbert Harold Taylor worked in Riveting

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Not seeing Eliza on a quick look, have to go out now, when get back will put the transcription into a more logical order

Thankyou for your reply re 1921 Census

Herbert H Taylor born 1899:Nottingham
It states that he’s single , but he’s supposed to have married Eliza Wilson 1917 Nottingham
May be when you look for Eliza Taylor nee Wilson it will show us more
Thankyou so much

Sorry to keep asking you all about him ,
Talk to, you again soon
From Olive Jean xx

Hi agian
Back along the information you have all kindly given me , it states that he has done Robberies so maybe that’s why Herbert H Taylor is in Borstal

The trouble is the information is very vague which my friend has given me
The 1939: Regiister address is right and the children ie Frances Taylor ( married name
Savage ) So I think she needs to send for the 1917 Marriage Nottingham) !!

Thankyou all once agian
Olive Jean

Just to say re that if that is Herbert H Taylor re 1921 census , I wouldn’t have thought
His wife would have been with him , in a Borstal
H M Borstal instn Borstal Rochester
Surely Eliza Taylor nee Wilson would be living else where
Maybe his wife would be entered on Census of that time
??
Hope you don’t mind me replying to you all again
Olive Jean

Possibly Eliza as she is with Wilson family recorded as daughter

Eliza Taylor in 1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales
14, Virginia Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Arthur Wilson Head Male 1869 52 Nottinghamshire, England Bricklayers Labourer Powell & Son Builders & Contractors (Out Of Work)
Mary Wilson Wife Female 1869 52 Nottinghamshire, England Home Duties -
Louisa Wilson Daughter Female 1905 16 Nottinghamshire, England Ladies Mantle Maker Apprentice Out Of Work Castleman's Drapers Etc
John Wilson Son Male 1893 28 Nottinghamshire, England Lace Dreser Out Of Work Ordeyno & Co Dyers & Lace Dresser
Ada Wilson Daughter Female 1910 11 Nottinghamshire, England - -
Thomas Wilson Son Male 1907 14 Nottinghamshire, England - -
Eliza Taylor Daughter Female 1900 21 Nottinghamshire, England Lax Driver Ordeyno & Co Dyers & Lace Dresser
Henry Wilson Son Male 1902 19 Nottinghamshire, England Threader-Lace E Daughty & Co Lace Manufacturers

she is a Lace (not Lax) dresser, working on Woolpack Lane

Thankyou once agian
For replying to me ,
Nottingham was into lace in that area
My Mum and her sisters worked in Lace in Thier younger
Days !!
Olive Jean

Just to say hello
Sorry to keep asking you about Hebert Harold Taylor born 1899 Nottingham
But I just wonder if he would be on any of the Electroles for Nottingham during 1920 1930 and 1940 years You have kindly found me 1921 and 1939 Census
I thought he maybe on these other years
I no there wasn’t any any during the Second World War
Thankyou once again
Olive Jean

Very few Electoral Rolls are online

You will probably need the local library for those- BUT, they are searchable by ADDRESS, which obviously you have been given for 1939


Get a copy of his death cert for last address

Name: Herbert Harold Taylor
Trial Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1900
Trial Date: 6 Feb 1920
Trial Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Carter
Charge: Breaking, entering and stealing
Sentence: 2 years under penal discipline in a Borstal institution

3 previous brushes with the law 1913, 1914, 1915

Although costly the childrens birth certificates should have an address.

My goodness carnt keep up with him
Would that information be on Nottingham news paper

I think a trip to the local Hucknall library
To see if they have any information on the localNottingham Paper
Thankyou

Olive Jean

Which Nottingham News paper would it state all these brushes with the law please
From Olive

No idea.....I don't know what newspapers are local to Nottingham

I got the info from the Court proceedings which I posted earlier