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Yes his year of birth should be about 1892, so thats right

That does look hopeful as on the marraige cert there is no middle name or initial.Seems funny cos when I was trying to find info on Gouldens I was given info on a Matilda Goulden pauper probable sister of John Goulden in a west derby workhouse.The name just stuck with me as it was so sad.Gonna google a map to see how far it is from salford.Wanda.xx

Well Bingo I would Say! Well done yet again, and yes I have seen that one now. So Wanda looks like you are at last Hitting the Jackpot. At least I hope so? Janice

Hi, well apart from it not being in Chorlton everything is right. Perhaps he is in hospital?

Just googled and its near Anfield Merseyside.

Is that close?? no good with parts up north

Ladies and gents? have to go now as it has cost me 20quid to keep my hubby occupied(we have our own gaming machine) and hes now run out of money and i will not be giving him anymore! Will be back on line tmoz and well done and thanks.Feel like im getting somewhere at last.Bless you all.Wanda/xxxxx

lol sounds like a grand piggy bank! nite wanda x

Hi Janice, Yes he could be anywhere. I searched for ages for a death in scotland only to find that it was registered in the county up! as I said perhaps he was in hospital, because thats where mine was.

West Darby very near Salford, and I had family in workhouse in that area too. It covers Liverpool and Wlton on the Hill. Linacre and many other areas. Perhaps they had gone adrift already? Seems odd if he is there and his Wife is till in Chorlton? Then you never know do you? I did think that Thomas Mitchell may have gone to 1914- 1918 War? Well time will tell. Keep up the search, yes the age is right and it fits in with the family issues, so we will see. I have checked up to 1924 and only one I spotted was Thomas H Mitchell in March Quarter age 32 years. Right age, wrong district: Greenwich. But who knows, if they parted he could be anywhere? Janice x

Just done a quick ancestry look and found a Thomas Mitchell born in Liverpool, which is West Derby. he is on 1901 census. So could he have originated from there and returned if his marriage was a failure? Maybe we should check that out? Tomorrow is another day and I am going to bed soon, so talk to all again tomorrow. Janice x

Hello there I noticed your plea for help. Can I ask did it have what Service Harold was in? I use rootschat.com a lot they are wonderful at helping. I am sure that someone could find his records. If there are 6 Harolds. You could find his medal index card they usually show 6 to a page. It costs only £3.50 to download the info. This is from the National Archives. So you would have all 6 showing on the one page. Its possible if he is from Manchester he could have been in the Manchester Regiment. There are experts on there who have Military websites. The site is free to join you should really sign up for it. I have seen them give people lots of information from what they find. Sign up now and then you scroll down the page until you get to the list of subjects. You would click on Armed Forces and start a new topic. I am sure you will get help. best wishes Agnes

Cancel my last thought abt Liverpool, just found him in Chorlton. 1901 census Father John Mother MARY Born 1892 and age 9 years on census wih his siblings. There on ancestry. Registration District Hulme. Janice x

Looks good Janice, especially with first daughter being called Mary ( I am right remembering that, arent I??, memory like a fish me)

Hi Willow His Mother is Mary. In house are: Patrick Mitchell age 11 yrs. Son Thomas Mitchell age 9 yrs. Son Mary Mitchell age 44 years...Mother John Mitchell age 46 years Head. Plus Eliza Kelly age 53 Lodger Lake Kelly age 14 Lodger Peter Kelly 11 Lodger Catherine Mitchell age 7 Daughter Fits in with information given by Wanda. Who tells me Thomas was 22 yrs when he married and his Father was John. He was a newsagent and lived at 6 Newcastle Street, Hulme. Father was a labourer and deceased. Mary Ellen was at same address when she married in 1914.

Hi Wanda & Team Took a Look for Lydia Cadden; Found her in 1901 census age 4 yrs born abt 1897. Also saw birth for her December Quarter 1896. On 1901 census she is with her Mother Susannah & Father Charles Cadden. Plus siblings. They are residing in Bury at the household of Alice Kay who is Head: They are described as Susannah: Daughter Charles as Son-in-law Children as Grandchildren. Sent scans onto Wanda with scans for other things located. Janice

Hi Wanda Looking at the concern Willow had for the marriage of Lydia Cadden to Harold Brierley in 1916, with regard to Harold's Army Record saying he was married and leaving in 1915. I wondered if perhaps Lydia & Harold were together at some stage whilst he was in the Army 1911-1915, maybe not married but residing together in some knid of relationship. Took at look at births under Cadden & Brierley 1912-1915, just incase Lydia was Common Law wife or whatever? Found a Brierley Birth in 1914 December Quarter: Lilian A Brierley born in Bury. Mother Named as CARDEN? Wondered if it could be mistranscribed as should have been CADDEN? May not even be connected, but just a thought, it would explain why Lydia was down as Wife if they had a child. Any Ideas on that? Janice x

Wanda & Team I have just found a death on Find my Past. It is Thomas Mitchell Border Regiment 1st Battalion Surname MITCHELL Forname(s) THOMAS Initials T Birthplace Hulme,Manchester Enlisted Manchester Residence Blank Rank PRIVATE Number 22331 Date Died 27 June 1916 How Died Died Theatre of War Home Supplementary Notes Nothing listed. Could this be The Thomas Mitchell? Janice x

Hi girls have only just managed to get on here as got grandaughter and she wont go to sleep! She is sitting trying to bang the keys so dont think will be any use tonight.So sorry as you have all done so good! If this is the right family which I thought it was when I first started on here but never had any proof as had no dob for Harold or where he came from.The only thing that could help me was if war records existed and I could link him to that.As you know have downloaded the war records and Willow was looking into that but please liase together if it helps.Gonna have a quick gander at what Janice has sent me and sorry once again.This cant be helped.Wanda.xxx

Wanda & Team Just checked The National Roll Of The Great War. Thinking that Thomas Mitchell died in the 1914-1915 War I thought he would be entitled to The 1914-15 Star, and The General Service and Victory Medals. Yes, he is there and he received them, or at least his Family should have. It gives him as Volunteering at the beginning of 1915, quickly drafted to the Dardanelles, and whilst taking part in the first landing on the Gallipoli Peninsula was unfortunately killed in Action in April of the same year. His address is given as 8 Back Pump Street, Hulme, Manchester. Dates differ from information given on Find my Past where his death is given as 27th June 1916. Guess with so many who lost their lives the death information took some time to filter through and they may not have been certain as to when they died. Sent this Scan to Wanda. This is definately the same man, and I think finally answers where Thomas Mitchell went, and why Mary Ellen only registered one child to Thomas Mitchell. Janice