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Gordon Report 24 Oct 2005 19:15

Hello Tracy, Here's one close to home that I hope you may be able to help me out with. Lady called Elizabeth Stangroom married Alfred Denney in Middlesbrough (1893-ish) and had one child (Harold) before Alfred died. She then went on to have 7 more children all of whom were given the surname Denney. I'm wondering (if it's Familyrelatives you are using) whether they name the father. If you could check up on a couple of the children (say Edna Barbara Denney b Jan-Mar 1902 and Francis W Denney b 1911) to see who was given as the father. Very best wishes from a gey wet dreich Boro, Gordon.


Linda Report 24 Oct 2005 20:05

Hi Tracy I am having trouble finding the right partner for Albert Barnsdale. I know he married in 1909in Grantham Lincs,but to which lady I am not sure.the ladies are Florence featherstonhaugh or Elizabeth Wing.Could you help me please as I am very confused. Linda

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 09:21

Nell, where are they likely to have married? There are quite a few Walter Grays lol Never mind, found one possible... Marriage Sep 1911 Gray Violet J Southwark.1d 192 Cook Sidney Southwark.1d 192 Wonder why he was called Jack lol How about Edith instead of Eva? Marriage Mar 1916 Gray Walter R Kettle Edith M Hampstead 1a 1564

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 09:22

Sorry Gordon, the only place you get the names of parents is from the birth certs. If they were born after he died, there probably won't be a fathers name on them.

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 09:33

Isobel, I think this is Jane... Death Sep 1900 Robinson Jane 35 Sunderland 10a 354 There are 12 possible births for John in Sunderland between 1894 and 1896, so it is impossible for me to be able to tell you which one is him. It might be worth your while asking the GRO to do a search for the one with matching parents of William and Jane. They charge 11.50 for this, which is a lot cheaper than £7x12 lol

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 09:37

Sorry Linda, the only way you'll know is to buy the cert. I can only match partners after 1912 when they put the names on the register.

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 09:39

Hi Frances :) This is the only one born Flaxton... David Burton abt 1803 Flaxton, Yorkshire, England Brother Hull Holy Trinity Yorkshire but there are these born c1820... David Burton abt 1821 Cherry Burton, Yorkshire, England Head Cherry Burton Yorkshire David Burton abt 1818 Cold Kirby, Yorkshire, England Head Scarborough Yorkshire Let me know which you'd like more info on.


Gordon Report 25 Oct 2005 10:48

Many thanks Tracy, Best wishes, Gordon


June Report 25 Oct 2005 10:59

Hi Tracy, On the 1851 census have two sisters with same year 1844 do you think they are twins or a mistake? Jane Williams 1844 Liverpool Margaret Williams 1844 liverpool any help please June

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 11:05

June, do you have the reference, or their parents please? Is it these? Elizabeth Williams abt 1821 Pottle Aley, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire Ellen Williams abt 1848 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire Jane Williams abt 1844 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire Margret Williams abt 1844 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire William Williams abt 1821 Angliea, Llangellew Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire If so, the ages are right, so probably twins. You would need to find the births to confirm though.


June Report 25 Oct 2005 11:09

Hi Tracy, That is them, will they have the same ref number or what ? June

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 11:11

Yes, if they are twins. When you order birth certs of twins, they usually have the times on as well.


June Report 25 Oct 2005 11:21

Hi Tracy , thank you for info just cross ref and found them 1843 my G G Grandmother was a twin GREAT June

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 11:52

Jackie, there are none in Stockport. When was he born?

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lea r Report 25 Oct 2005 11:53

Hi Tracey, having a lot of problems with these two! I am looking for the marriage of Francis charles Cassidy and Mary Ann Wrayc1890. They are the parents of my grandmother marey lily cassidy b. 1894 felling, gateshead. The used their surnames interchangeably i.e. when they moved to Scotland after 1894 they were known as cassidy wray. I sup[pose their surnames could also be the other way round i.e. francis wray and mary cassidy. Could you look for me please? you may have more luck than i have! Thanks, leanne

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 11:57

Jackie, there are only these ones in 1901... Patrick Naven abt 1847 Ireland Head Eccles Lancashire Patrick Navin abt 1848 Galway, Ireland Head Chesterfield Derbyshire Patrick Nevin abt 1850 Ireland Head Elswick Northumberland


Russell Report 25 Oct 2005 12:03

Thanks for your earlier message. I have sent off for a copy of their marriage cert. Could you possibly look into another one for me: James Bottrill (circa 1850) could have come from Leicester but could be anywhere was married to Elizabeth Horne (circa 1850). By 1875 I know they were living in Leicester as they had a child then but I can't find anything previous to this. Bottrill may be spelt in a different way I guess? Any help would be good please? Thanks Russell

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 12:11

Lea, do you know when Francis and Mary were born?

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 25 Oct 2005 12:16

Russell, where are they in 1881?


J Report 25 Oct 2005 12:29

Hi Tracy If the 1851 is back up would you be kind enough to have a look at these 2 images to check the Transcriptions for me please in the 1851 Gloucestershire census. William Barradine 65 gardener Twigworth Gloucestershire Sarah 31 ? Quedgley Edwin age 21? Labourer Gloucester St. Owen John 9 Scholar Barton St Mary Mary 3 Barton St Mary Charles 2 Barton St Mary REVONAL ?? Thomas Lodger 11 Whaddon In the barton st Mary parish of Gloucester HO 107/1962 Sorry havnt got the folio or page Also BARRADINE John 75 Toll Gate Keeper Twigworth Ann 28 HIS WIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gloucester City The Parishes of Tortworth & Charfield HO 107/1957 Would like to know the Bits missing from the transcription like the relationships and folio and page no.s and double check that Ann aged 28 is the wife of John aged 75. Any help greatly appreciated Julie