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Thanks Tracy that's great Louise :)

Tracy. YOU ARE SOOOOO GOOD!That is definately them. you seem to have a knack for finding mispelt names. Thanks so much for helping me. Crikey, the speed you work, I bet your tree is done and dusted! Smiley Lynn. Cheers!

Lynn - if only lol Everyone elses tree seems so much easier than mine :)

Hi Tracey. Very grateful for a look-up for George William or William George CRAWLEY, born 1876/77, in St Georges in the East, Middlesex. I have tried to locate him in all the normal places, that I have access to anyway. He has disappeared from the 1891 census. He joined the RA, in Woolwich in 1896. His mother was Annie CRAWLEY and I believe his father was George CRAWLEY. Any help appreciated.. Rose C (ta)

Hi , If your still about can I get you to look at 1851 census for John Carter b1826 Stotfold, Beds Ruth b 1827 Stotfold Beds Cheers : )

Louise, I don't have any 1851. Sorry.

Argh, well. what about 1861???? Thanks anyway! Louise : )

Rose, do you have him in 1881?

Louise, 1861 I can do :) John Carter abt 1826 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Head Stotfold Bedfordshire Ruth Carter abt 1827 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Wife Stotfold Bedfordshire Martha Carter abt 1847 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Stotfold Bedfordshire Thos Carter abt 1848 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son Stotfold Bedfordshire Isacc Carter abt 1850 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son Stotfold Bedfordshire Noah Carter abt 1853 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son Stotfold Bedfordshire Elious Carter abt 1855 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son Stotfold Bedfordshire Rosa Carter abt 1858 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Stotfold Bedfordshire Phebe Carter abt 1860 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Stotfold Bedfordshire

Thanks Tracey, your're a whizz!!! And so speedy!

Hi Tracey. Re: CRAWLEY. It is believed he changed his name from MORTIMER to CRAWLEY sometime between 1880 and 1896 (we believe his father died and his mother co-habbited with a George CRAWLEY). The George I am looking for presumably took the name of the George CRAWLEY his mother was living with. Why oh why is life so complicated. I found a George MORTIMER in 1881 living in Chapman Place, St Georges in the East. Its just that when he joined the Army in 1896, he gave his name as George CRAWLEY. ha! I have been trying to unravel this problem for donkeys yonks. ha. Thanks Tracey. Rose C

Rose - how confusing! lol I'll see what I can do :)

Rose, do you have a marriage, birth or death cert for him? What information is on his sign up papers?

Hi Tracey. Re: CRAWLEY/MORTIMER. When he joined the Army in 1896, he gave his name as George CRAWLEY, born in St Georges in the East. He gave his age as 19 yrs and 3 mths. He gives his next of kin as mother, Annie CRAWLEY. He also says that he has an elder sister, Eliza. He says that his mother was living at 19 Upper Fenton Street, St Georges in the East. He married in 1899, Portsmouth giving his name again as George CRAWLEY. Eliza, his sister was born MORTIMER!! On his marriage cert he says that his father was George CRAWLEY, (deceased) Dock Labourer. WHAT A MESS. Rose C. xx

Well, that matches the info you found in 1881, even though the names are all over the place lol 1881 Elizabeth Clarke abt 1840 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Head James H. Clarke abt 1868 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Son -- Margaret Malby abt 1821 Tower Hill St Kathrines Head Ann Mortimer abt 1852 Wapping, Middlesex, England Wife Joseph Mortimer abt 1852 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Husband Eliza A. Mortimer abt 1873 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Daughter -- Matilda Crosbie abt 1842 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Head William G. Crosbie abt 1875 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Son George Crosbie abt 1876 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Son Sarah Crosbie abt 1878 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Daughter Conyers T. R.(K) Crosbie abt 1880 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Son George M. Mortimer abt 1878 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Son 11 Chapman Pl, St George in the East, London, England Joseph died in 1883. He and Ann married in 1872. This is the ref for their George... Birth Mar 1878 Mortimer George William St George In The East 1c 435 and Eliza... Birth Dec 1872 Mortimer Eliza Ann Chelsea 1a 259

Ok, well I found out a few things Rose... 1861 Matilda Malby abt 1822 St Georges, Middlesex, England Head St George in the East Middlesex Elizabeth Davis abt 1840 St Georges, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Matilda Davis abt 1842 St Georges, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Emma Davis abt 1847 St Georges, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Alf J Davis abt 1848 St Georges, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East Middlesex Walter Malby abt 1858 St Georges, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East Middlesex 1871 Margaret M Malby abt 1819 St Katharine's, Middlesex, England Head St George in the East London Walter Willer Malby abt 1858 St Georges, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East London Matilda Crosbie abt 1842 St Georges, Middlesex, England Head(Mar) St George in the East London Annie Crosbie abt 1866 Bromley, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East London Elizabeth Clarke abt 1840 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Wife(Mar - Husband at Sea) St George in the East London James H Clarke abt 1869 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East London John Clarke abt 1870 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East London Marriages Mar 1863 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSBIE George St Geo. East 1c 781 DAVIS Matilda St Geo East 1c 781 So all those people in 1881 are related somehow.

However, Rose, here's your Ann... 1861 Henry Burwood abt 1816 St George in the East Head St George in the East Middlesex Emma Burwood abt 1817 St Don Wapping Wife St George in the East Middlesex Eliza A Burwood abt 1837 St George in the East Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Catherine P Burwood abt 1843 St George in the East Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Emma E Burwood abt 1846 St George in the East Daughter St George in the East Middlesex Henry E Burwood abt 1848 St George in the East Son St George in the East Middlesex Ann Burwood abt 1852 St George in the East Daughter St George in the East Middlesex William F Burwood abt 1857 St George in the East Son St George in the East Middlesex William T Burwood abt 1857 St George in the East Grandson St George in the East Middlesex William Wardell abt 1843 N Boarder St George in the East Middlesex 1871 Henery Burmood abt 1816 St Georges, Middlesex, England Head St George in the East London Emma Burmood abt 1812 Wapping, Middlesex, England Wife St George in the East London Ann Burmood abt 1852 St Georges, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East London William Burmood abt 1857 St Georges, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East London William Burmood abt 1858 St Georges, Middlesex, England Grandson St George in the East London

TRacy Thanks for your offer. Could you confirm what a Trinity House calendar is please. An ancestor worked for Trinity House. Peter

Hi Tracy Could I take advantage of a look up on British Origins ( a resource I have never used ) I note that there are 2 entries for the surname PULHAM under the: London Apprenticeship Abstracts (1442-1850) I wonder if these could be a Samuel PULHAM and his brother James PULHAM for carpentry? If not I'd still like to know what information this look up brings. Many thanks for your time, trouble and very kind offer Much happiness Debi ps could I also ask about the one entry for the name under the WILLs? who what where when .......... Also....... lol......... is British Origin worth it's fee? or is it really hit and miss? Thanks Tracy.

Kelly, bit later than you expected lol Birth Mar 1918 Hallam Gladys mother - Dobson Nottingham 7b 703 There are others earlier, but none with maiden name Dobson.