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John

John Report 18 Dec 2003 20:55

Hi Susie, You are BRILLIANT dont suppose there would be record of marriage of William and Elizabeth would there?Many thanks already. John

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 18 Dec 2003 21:10

hi john i think this is him,its the only one in liverpool william thompson married elizabeth crawley 2 jan 1823 st.pauls liverpool wife previously married there is also one in 1831 but that would be after william jr was born.i'll give uit you anyway,just to confuse you..lol william thompson married elizabeth wilson 22 feb 1831 st.michaels liverpool susie

John

John Report 18 Dec 2003 21:18

Hi Susie, Just checked on IGI and found two more christenings of William Robinson father William mother Elizabeth.24/3/1829 and26/4/1830 both at St.Peter's Liverpool(but to confuse things further I have ancestors born in Warrington who were christened at St.Peter,s Liverpool,according to IGI not Thompsons) also there are another 2 marriages mentioned as well as the one to Elizabeth Crawley.One to Elizabeth Owens 15/12/1828 St.Peters and Elizabeth Nelson 15/5/1828 St.Johns

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 18 Dec 2003 21:43

john it looks like youve really got your work cut out..lol how confusing.have you any incling which elizabeth it is,cos im darned if i would have a clue...lol susie

Martin

Martin Report 18 Dec 2003 23:53

Hi Susie, Please could you look up William Joseph Williams born 1874. We have him possibly living in Southwark in 1991 - head of household is Lucy H Jones - maybe she's his mother and remarried, but there is no husband mentioned. I've hit a dead end with William and would like to find out his parents, grandparents, where he lived, siblings etc. He is my paternal great grandfather by the way. Contact will go through my father Martin Williams email address. Thanks in advance Sam Jones NZ

John

John Report 19 Dec 2003 00:21

Hi Susie not sure which marriage it could be ,looks like I will somehow have to get to Liverpool library to find out which William Thompson jr. had a father who was a sail maker,thanks anyway

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 19 Dec 2003 09:54

hi sam and martin i found william on the 1881 census,but no dad lucy h williams head widow 35 christchurch surrey london sarah l williams dau 11 william j williams son 8 joseph h williams son 2 123 broadhall christchurch southwark london it looks like williams dad must have died early and lucy remarried.i'll see if i can find a marriage for lucy so that i can get williams dads name for you susie

Martin

Martin Report 21 Dec 2003 21:04

HI Susie, thanks for finding that one - also saw it myself, but how do you confirm that its the correct William J Williams?? Being such a common name and all! Be grateful of any further information you can find about his father and mother(Lucy). Sam/Martin I've just found a marriage for a Lucy Hannah Barrett and a Joseph Frances Williams in Christchurch, Southwark 27/08/1871. Could tie in with names and dates - still can't find any births or deaths for Lucy or Joseph though....grateful of any help! Thanks Sam/Martin

Sue in Sx

Sue in Sx Report 21 Dec 2003 22:35

Hello Susie - Can you please have a look for two deaths.. if i'm giving you enough info to go on that is.. First is Herbert E Sturgeon, i'm guessing that he died somewhere in Hertfordshire after 1901 - he is reputedly still alive in 1915 but I can't prove it! (Also there might be more than one - you would'nt think so with a name like that, but i've found three!! The others came from Suffolk) Second - his wife Elizabeth Sturgeon who was definitely still alive in 1915 also in Hertfordshire If it helps - Herbert was born 1871 - Elizabeth born 1879. Thanks - Sue.

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 09:57

hi sue ive had a look on the nbi and there are no sturgeons in herts. i found 2 herberts but they were both babies and in suffolk sorry susie

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 13:00

hi sam and martin ive had a look at the NBI and no deaths for lucy or joseph. i found a joseph on the vri but he was born in 1803 joseph foster williams ch.13 apr 1803 battersea surrey father william williams mother sarah smith mothers father thomas smith mothers mother martha smith i also found a birth for a lucy barrett but it was in cambridge lucy barrett ch 28 apr 1848 wilburton cambridge father william barrett mother mary i hope this hasnt confused you any more..lol susie

Sue in Sx

Sue in Sx Report 22 Dec 2003 13:07

Thanks for looking Suzie - Sue

John

John Report 22 Dec 2003 13:21

Hi Susie, here I am again with another set on ancestors that I am stuck with.Marriage in Halifax,Yorkshire .1830 William Walsh (occupation Tailor) and Harriet Green (possibly from Northowram which is near Halifax) could you find any info. on these two.Anything at all would be greatly appreciated. John

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 14:00

hi john all i could find was their marriage.i cant find them on 1891.do you know when they were born and if they have any children heres the marriage,although youve probably got it..lol william walsh married harriet green 17 may 1830 halifax yorks susie

John

John Report 22 Dec 2003 15:36

Hi Susie, all I know is that their daughter Elizabeth Ann Walsh is shown on IGI as christened 1834 at St.John's Halifax,there is also a Martha Ann Walsh christened at same time same parents(from census Elizabeth Ann would be born c.1830,on marriage certificate no age is given but her husband was born in 1826),there is also another sister Mary ,on IGI christened Latchford,nr.Warrington 1842 (for her parents it just says Mrs. Harriet Walsh ,no mention of William ) on Warrington 1871 census Mary is still single living with her sister Elizabeth .I would have thought there would be other children in between ,but not sure. John

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 16:07

hi john sorry but i cant find anything about william and harriet i found a birth of a john albert walsh with a mother martha ann walsh he was ch on 17 jun 1874 in dunkinfield cheshire and also a james walsh who was born 24 feb 1894 and christened 2 jun 1894 also in dunkinfield.his mother was mary walsh neither had a mention of a father susie

John

John Report 22 Dec 2003 16:36

Hi Susie, thanks for attempts,not sure about the ones you found being connected but will bear them in mind.can I aslo ask you to look up details of Elizabeth Ann Walsh's husband. James Hornby was christened at St.Mary's ,Prescot,Lancs 18/2/1826 parents John Hornby and Mary (surname unknown),john was a Watch tool maker and appears on 1841 Prescot census as aged 55 (this could mean anywhere between 55-59).also present on 1841 census are George(35),Ann(25),Martha(20),Elizabeth(12),would there be any records of the Hornby family in Prescot,Lancs at around this time. John

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 17:12

john all i could find on the vri are 2 possible marriages for john hornby john hornby married mary dickinson 18 june 1827 whitewall lancs john hornby married mary holden 13 april 1828 liverpoll lancs susie

John

John Report 22 Dec 2003 17:32

Hi Susie, Thanks for that,will bear them in mind,although I am pretty certain he was married long before then.I went to St.Helens library to find details of possible marriage ,however for some reason there were no entries for 1805 or 1806 which is when I think the marriage may have taken place(assuming the George on 1841 census is his son), One last request Thomas Hall,according to 1881 census born c.1839 Ardwick,Manchester ,father David (occ.haberdasher),I know he had a younger sister Elizabeth ,would you have any records of any other siblings,or info about David and his wife John

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 22 Dec 2003 18:06

john i found another marriage for john hornby john hornby married mary dewhurst 11 sept 1819 poulton le fylde lancs i found a marriage for a david hall david hall married hannah taylor 13 august 1808 warrington i also found a birth for an elizabeth but her mother wasnt hannah? elizabeth hall ch.31 october 1852 coppill lancs father david hall mother harriett anne hall ch 23 december 1857 standish lancs father david hall mother harriet sorry but it is all i could find susie