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HELPING OTHERS........BE AWARE

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 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 19 Oct 2008 20:48

As far as I'm concerned it's carry on as usual and I'll wait for the knock on the door !

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 19 Oct 2008 20:59

I would think that Ancestry would come down on the threads that advertise lookups first but who knows? So whilst I'm happy to help with the mistranscriptions but I'm not going to risk my subs & a possible heavy fine to do a lookup.

When you think about, if your hobby was golf would you expect to use someone else's equipment?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 20 Oct 2008 00:58

Now when it comes to balls I'll use anyones !!!
Pass me the putter !

*****libra

*****libra Report 20 Oct 2008 08:27

Nudge for later.






libra.

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 20 Oct 2008 09:06

Please correct me if I have picked this up wrong, but does this mean we should now NOT be doing look ups for other people which would sadly lead to the loss of these boards, apart from asking about general geneology questions.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 20 Oct 2008 09:15

hoobity boobity.♥, Ron is recomending that if you DO lookups you don't advertise where you have got the info from. If you look at some of the threads that offer to do lookups some clearly state the facilities that they have such as Ancestry & FMP.

I wonder what would happen if someone posted "I have GR Gold & will do lookups"!

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 20 Oct 2008 09:23

Thanks for that Claire.

Brenda

Brenda Report 20 Oct 2008 10:54

I have read most of the last 2 days comments.
I would like to say I hadnt seen in any of the comments I read, mention of the fact that when Family Record Centre was at Clerkenwell every one was able to access Ancestry for free. I havent yet been to Kew so I dont know how it is there.
how does that fit with the laww?.
Brenda

Heather

Heather Report 20 Oct 2008 11:45

Its also a bit iffy when people offer look ups on discs they have bought. The people who spend time transcribing the info and then putting them on discs obviously do it as a business.

I think we just all need to be a bit more sensible about it - i.e. as Ron says, just give the actual basic info, not copy and paste from other sites.

Ron

Ron Report 20 Oct 2008 13:39

Quite correct Heather. That's exactly what I meant plus the fact that you don't quote the website where you got the information from or put a post on the board saying "Look up's from so & so's site available" which I have seen happen. Do that and you are asking for your subscription to be canceled.

Some people have quoted the T&C's from various sites and as you can see from the previous posts the T&C's differ for almost every site. I am not quoting from one site and no particular site prompted me to post the warning.

I'm just saying be aware that SOME SITES actually ban look up's and most sites do monitor the web traffic to ensure that look up's do not occur.

It's odds on that if you do the odd look up there won't be a problem but if you continually do look ups from the same site it may well be spotted.

Ron
www.genealogyprinters.com

Annx

Annx Report 20 Oct 2008 15:24

Thanks for this thread Ron...I am still fairly new to this and my question is probably silly but I need to know.

Where does this leave us when sharing our tree on GR? I understand that there can be a human rights issue if living relatives are shared, but what about the rest of the tree? After all, the GR site gives an opportunity to put 'the source of data' on your tree entries, so if you put the source down and then share your tree, if you have gleaned the data from say Ancestry and have said so surely passing the info on by means of sharing your tree is no different than a look up? Can someone clarify, as I thought I was being helpful by putting the source of data on my tree entries, but perhaps I should leave that blank.

Ron

Ron Report 20 Oct 2008 15:44

I don't think this is a problem in the slightest. You are allowing someone to see the results of your research and maybe where that information came from, which is a different matter altogether.

The only thing I can see a problem with is sharing your tree and allowing the details of living people to be seen by other people, this is a no no and details of living people should not be made available to other people without the permission of the living people involved. This has been the subject of many postings on GR and and quite a few people have been very annoyed to see details of living people stolen from their tree and displayed on somebody else's tree.

Ron
www.genealogyprinters.com

Annx

Annx Report 20 Oct 2008 16:24

Ron

Many thanks for your reply...mind at ease again now.

WelshShirl

WelshShirl Report 21 Oct 2008 09:30

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trebor

trebor Report 22 Oct 2008 12:10

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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 12 Nov 2008 08:19

This needs to be taken seriously, someone has recieved an email which threatens to termimate their account if they continue to do work for others.