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Samuel Henry Darling born 1832

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Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 18:06

Thanks for that. I have the Certificate of this vessel also but no definite connection with my Darling. This was one of the pieces that the genealogist found along with another Henry which threw up all these questions.

Thanks

Grace

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 18:04

Thanks for that. I have the Certificate of this vessel also but no definite connection with my Darling. This was one of the peices that the genealogist found along with another Henry which threw up all these questions.

Thanks

Grace

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 18:00

Hi Grace,

have you seen this chap?? I know he's 10 yeras older, but you never know??

1871 England Census
about Henry Darling
Name: Henry Darling
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Wembury, Devon, England
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Off Girdler Lightship
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: Queen (1)
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 887
Folio: 99
Household Members: Name Age
William Short 33
Henry Darling 49 >> Married
Nathaniel Barker 28
George Ridout 31
John Seatt 20
Tomas Pearle 14


Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 17:39

B.Mans dau.

Yes I actually have this marriage also:

1862 Parish of Charles Plymouth

July 9 1862 Henry Darling full age Royal Marine father William - Labourer

Elizabeth Cowler full aged - Mannamead father John Cowler Labourer

Witnesses Susanna Jago and R Evans

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 17:33

Hello again Batmans dau. I'm back

James Watt was on your 1861 census of the Vessel that Darling was on as well that - was a recollection I had rather than a connection.
I thought the same as you about the Oxford connection though.
I'm still drawn towards the Adare, Limerick connection somehow.

Grace

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 13:08

OK.......... think this is that other marriage;

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Darling
Name: Elizabeth Darling
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Darling
Gender: Female
Where born: Chittlehampton, Devon, England
Civil parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 327
Piece: 2125
Folio: 63
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Darling 34 Born Oxford H, London, England
Elizabeth Darling 33
Elizabeth Darling 7
William Darling 2


I can't get on the original image. but think this rules the Oxfordshire link out?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 13:02

Grace looking on Freebmd in Plymouth from 1861 to 1888 i can account for the Darlings on there apart for this marriage;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cowler Elizabeth Plymouth 5b 403
Darling Henry Plymouth 5b 403


there were 2 others on the marriage..... I have accounted for those....it just seems strange that this is the odd one out!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 12:36

Hi Grace,

you've thrown me slightly with the Watts link..... can you explain??

This is Mary Ann;

1861 England Census
about Mary A Watts
Name: Mary A Watts
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Watts
Gender: Female
Where born: East Stonehouse, Devon, England

Civil parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 581
Piece: 1447
Folio: 120
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
George Watts 58 >> Blacksmith
Susan Watts 24
Mary A Watts 22
Thos D Watts 20
Willm J Watts 18


Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 12:29

Be back later folks - have to hang my washing out before the sun sets.

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 12:23

Have th info:-
Mary Ann Watts married the day before my gt. g/father's 1st marriage.
Her father was George Watts (Blacksmith)
Is this a coincident or what ?

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 12:18

B.Man's dau.

Doing some sums on your info and the 'Indus' is one of the ships Charles Henry (my g/father) served on.
Could this indeed be my ancestors born in Oxford ??
Needs looking into I think so grateful thanks.

Grace x
p.s. Watt is a name I seem to remember I'll have a looksee.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 12:13

So the 1891 census ties in as they are living at Francis Street

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 12:12

Thanks Batman's daughter

They are the couple in the second marriage where he reverses his name AARGH but still in a quandry over his birth and parents.
Thanks for your info'

Grace x

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 12:07

1st marriage: St Andrew Plymouth Devon to Elizabeth Mary Grace SOPER 30 Spinster May 16 1864
Samuel Henry Darling 28 Bachelor - Mariner of 4 Holy Cross Lane
Father Henry Darling Mariner.
Witnesses Harriet Soper and William Bter?? Henry White

2nd marriage: St Peter Plymouth Devon April 22 1888
Samuel Henry Darling 54 Widower - Mariner of 7 Francis Place
Father Henry Darling Mariner.
Sarah Dawe (no age) Spinster 7 Francis Place Father Samuel Dawe - Tailor

Witnesses: William Soper and Sophia Darling (Sam's daughter)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 12:03

1901 England Census
about Henry S Darling
Name: Henry S Darling
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Darling
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: General labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 514
Piece: 2098
Folio: 35
Page Number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Henry S Darling 64 >> 69 on image
Sarah Darling 69


1891 England Census
about Henry Darling
Name: Henry Darling
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Darling
Gender: Male
Where born: Wembury

Civil parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1731
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Darling 59
Sarah Darling 52


Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 11:56

Yes Dee,

I'll pop and get them - please give me time as I'm disable/old - lol and will need several minutes.

XX

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 11:55

Have you considered this chap??

1861 England Census
about Henry Darling
Name: Henry Darling
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Private R M (Private)
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: SINGLE

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: James Watt
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4433
Folio: 43
Page Number: 36


1871 England Census
about Henry Darling
Name: Henry Darling >>>>> now MARRIED
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Private Rm S I (Private)
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Hamoaze
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Tamar
ED, institution, or vessel: Indus (2)
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2140
Folio: 67
Page Number: 23

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 11:52

Are the witnesses on the marriage certificates of any use??

Dee x

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 11:47

Just to add to the confusion: Charles Henry was also in the Navy but I have all his records. He changed his birth date to sign on as a 'boy' as a 12 year old.
Grace

Grace

Grace Report 1 May 2011 11:42

That was the reason I turned to Devon for their records as it was Topsham Devon I noticed and they suggested he popped in and out of Devon??
Grace