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Shirley

Shirley Report 13 Sep 2012 20:56

Hi have found the birth index for

John R Grice
Born Dec 1866
Marylebone

I however cannot find him on any census in 1871 thereafter.....

Would anybody be able to help me at all?

Many thanks in advance...
Shirley

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Sep 2012 21:12

Deaths Jun 1867 ?

Grice John Rupert 0 Marylebone 1a 366


Roy

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 13 Sep 2012 21:15

His baptism...

Name: John Rupert Grice
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1866
Baptism Date: 10 Oct 1866
Father's Name: Joseph Grice....................wine merchant
Mother's Name: Arabella Grice
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone St Mark
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

Family lived at Blenheim Terrace.

Gwyn

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2012 21:31

How did you pick out this particular birth?

Is he a known relation?

Shirley

Shirley Report 13 Sep 2012 21:33

Mmmm..... II didn't see this. This obviously isn't the John Grice I wasn't looking for.. :-(.

The one I need to find didn't pass away.....

Shirley

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Sep 2012 21:33

Mis-transcription, wife is Arabella:


1871 England Census

Name: Joseph Grice grocer/wine merchant
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Grice
Gender: Male
Where born: Upper Bronghton, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John

Joseph Grice 38
Isabella Grice 35
Mary C Grice 12
Annie E Grice 9
Joseph E B Grice 7
Minnie A Grice 3
Eliza Rainer 29
Lizzie M Cooke 24

Deaths Sep 1872 (>99%)
Grice Arabella 37 Marylebone 1a 387

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Sep 2012 21:34

What do you know about your John Grice?
Jan

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Sep 2012 21:40

Only one John Grice Born Dec 1866 Marylebone registered, so which one are you looking for?


Births Dec 1866

Grice John R Marylebone 1a 546

Shirley

Shirley Report 13 Sep 2012 21:56

The John Grice I'm looking for states on 1891 census that he was 30 and born in marylebone..... Which makes his birh 1861

However his death certificate works out that he died in 1897 which makes his birth 1866......

Confused.com

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Sep 2012 22:01

1891 this one

Name: John Grice
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Augusta Grice
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: fishmonger ?

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1980
Folio: 104
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Grice 30
Augusta Grice 29 born Bristol
John Grice 2


Class: RG12; Piece: 1980; Folio: 104; Page: 8; GSU roll: 6097090.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Sep 2012 22:01

This is him?

1891 England Census
Name: John Grice
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Augusta Grice
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Barton Regis

John Grice 30
Augusta Grice 29
John Grice 2

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Sep 2012 22:04

Have you got the marriage cert?

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
Bayley Augusta Barton Regis 6a 340
GRICE John Barton R. 6a 340
Reakes Henry William Barton Regis 6a 340

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Sep 2012 22:04

1901 census Augusta has married Henry Fox

Shirley

Shirley Report 13 Sep 2012 22:08

Yes this is him....... Trying to find him perhaps in 1871 census so I can find his parents..... Without his birth gro I can't find out who they are but thought I might be able to on the census"...

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Sep 2012 06:56

http://www.mygenesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1244715?d=asc

(Marriage details seem to be on above)

Chris :)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Sep 2012 08:29

So, to ask again, did you get the marriage cert?
Jan

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 14 Sep 2012 09:30

Have you seen this one in C1881 Ealing?

Richard GRICE, 52, grocer & wine merchant, b Broughton, Notts
Isabella, wife, 43, b Leics
John A GRICE, 19, accountant, b Kensington, London
Maud E, 7, b Cheltenham, Glos
Mabel G, 6, b Charlton Kings, Glos
Richard S, 4, b Charlton Kings

If he is the Bristol John GRICE in C1891, aged 30, fishmonger, b Marylebone, married to Augusta, 29 he is a possibility. Occupation (retail), birthplace of sisters etc.

Family (now FOX) living in Pentonville in C1901. Augusta (widow), John (12), William (10) and Abraham (8) - boys born Bristol.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Sep 2012 09:43

brummiejan, Ref marriage cert see the link Chris Ho posted above

Roy

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 14 Sep 2012 09:44

Death of John seems to be Mar 97 Q aged 31 Barton Regis. This age of death looks wrong to me, as he married in 83. Possibly mistranscription for 37?

Marriage to Harry FOX Sept 97 Bristol.

Looks as if there was a fourth child, born after death of John. Augusta GRICE born Barton R June 97 Q, died following quarter (same quarter as second marriage).

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Sep 2012 09:51

I have checked the death index and age 31 is clear to see so not a mistranscription from the index but info on deaths are only as good as the informants knowledge of the deceased,

Roy