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My Greatgrand Parents John William & Elizabeth Infield (nee Howell) are not on the Census the only one of their Family I can find is their Son William & he is with his Fisher Grandparents in St Albans. They have to other children DaIsy & herbert.My Greatgrandmother is pregant at the time as my own grandfather was born in 1901 :-(

Can you tell us when & where they were born? Do you have them on another census?
Jan

Just to give an idea:

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)

HOWELL Elizabeth St. Alban's 3a 914
Infield John William St. Alban's 3a 914

I assume this is John. A tree on Ancestry has him dying 1918, though I can't see the record for this, and Elizabeth dying 1950. Must admit I can't see them anywhere 1901 or 1911.

1891 England Census

Name: John W Infield
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ravensden, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Great Staughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Staughton
Town: Great Staughton
County/Island: Huntingdonshire

Registration district: St Neots
Sub-registration district: Kimbolton

Harriett Minney 44
Ernest Minney 20
Eleanor Yates 4
Clara Horner 22
John W Infield 18

I thin someone put this but has deleted it - maybe thinking it is wrong? The Ancestry tree has this as the family, but no corroborating evidence given:

1911 England Census

Name: Claud Infield
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: St Peter Rural
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 81 Castle Road, Fleetville, St Albans
Registration district: St Albans

Elizabeth Infield 37
Daisy Infield 16
William Infield 14
Herbert Infield 10
Charles Infield 9
Doris Infield 5
Claud Infield 3

Are you sure this is your William? Why Fisher name for grandparents?

1901 England Census
Name: William A Enfield
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Peter, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Hertfordshire

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans

Joseph Fisher 67
Hannah Fisher 54
Mary J Fisher 23
Charles Fisher 18
Albert Fisher 16
George Warwick 19
William A Enfield 4

Looks like 1873 John W is William in 1881 with father John b 1823

1881 census transcription details for: Chapel End, Colmworth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1625
Folio: 30
Page: 15
Reg. District: Bedford
Sub District: Barford
Parish: Colmworth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Chapel End, Colmworth
County: Bedfordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
INFIELD, John Head Widower M 58 1823 Farm Labourer Colmworth, Bedfordshire
INFIELD, Louisa Daughter Single F 19 1862 Lacemaker Wilden, Bedfordshire
INFIELD, George Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Ravensden, Bedfordshire
INFIELD, William Son Single M 9 1872 ScholarRavensden, Bedfordshire

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Infield Herbert Hendon 3a 298


Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Infield Charles Hendon 3a 303

(wondering if above area 1901?)

Chris :)

? The Fisher connection.?( Have found a Charles and Isabella Jordan in Bedford 1861)
Keep coming back to it, but can't get the connection to the family concerned.
Every way you turn there seems to be a missing link.

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: INFIELD, William
Registration district: Bedford
County: Bedfordshire
Year of registration: 1852?Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 3B?
Page no: 485

MarriageFinder: William Infield married one of the following people:
FISHER, Ann <<<<<<<<<<<<
FLEMING, Isabella
JORDAN, Charles

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about John William Infield
Name: John William Infield
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 21
Father's Name: John Infield
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Howell
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Howell
Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1894
Marriage Place: Saint Albans, Hertfordshire, England

So the Fisher connection;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
FERN Sarah Rebecca St Alban's 3a 557
>>>>FISHER Joseph St Alban's 3a 557
Hathaway Joseph St. Albans 3a 557
>>>>HOWELL Hannah St Albans 3a 557

So was Elizabeth Howell born out of wedlock or had her mother (Hannah) become a widow and remarried??

Question answered;

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Hannah Warden
Name: Hannah Warden
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1846
Age: 20
Father's Name: Thomas Warden
Spouse's Name: Thomas Howell
Spouse's Age: 33
Spouse's Father's Name: William Howell
Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1866
Marriage Place: Saint Albans, Hertfordshire, England

Question answered;

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Hannah Warden
Name: Hannah Warden
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1846
Age: 20
Father's Name: Thomas Warden
Spouse's Name: Thomas Howell
Spouse's Age: 33
Spouse's Father's Name: William Howell
Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1866
Marriage Place: Saint Albans, Hertfordshire, England

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Daisy Enfield
Name: Daisy Enfield
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 May 1895
Christening Place: Saint Albans, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: John William Enfield
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

Anyone have FMP?? Could do with a look up for 16 Brent view Road, Hendon...... think this maybe the family in 1901;

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about William Enfield
Name: William Enfield
Year: 1901
County or Borough: Harrow
Ward or Division/Constituency: Harrow
Street Address: 1 BeUe-vue-terrace

Name: Daisy Infield
Spouse Name: Ernest Arthur Macrow
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1920
Parish: Hillside St Michael and All Saints
Borough: Brent
Father Name: John William Infield (Deceased)
Spouse Father Name: Herbert Horsley Macrow
Register Type: Parish Register

Chris :)

1911 England Census about J W Enfield
Name: J W Enfield
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Female << think this is wrong!!!
Birth Place: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: St Peter Rural
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hertfordshire County Asylum, Hill End, St Albans
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fireman Railway <<<<<<<
Registration district: St Albans
Registration District Number: 139
Sub-registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 20-21

1901 Census transcription details for: 16, Brent View Road, Hendon, West Hendon
National Archive Reference:
RG number RG13
Piece: 1228
Folio: 95
Page: 37
Reg. District: Hendon
Sub District: Hendon
Parish: Hendon
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: West Hendon St John
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 16, Brent View Road, Hendon, West Hendon
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SAUNDERS, David Head Married M 32 1869 Railway Fireman Loco Wheathampstd, Hertfordshire
SAUNDERS, Susan Wife Married F 34 1867 Harpenden, Hertfordshire
SAUNDERS, Qwennie Daughter Single F 10 1891 Harpenden, Hertfordshire
SAUNDERS, Mable Daughter Single F 7 1894 Harpenden, Hertfordshire
SAUNDERS, William Son Single M 3 1898 Harpenden, Hertfordshire
SAUNDERS, Ellen Daughter Single F 0 1901 Hendon, Middlesex

Name: ENFIELD, John W
Registration district: [?] St. Albans
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:45
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 1151

Chris :)

1911 (on FMP)
ENFIELD, J W Patient Married M 38 1873 Fireman Railway Bedford Beds
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7686
Reference: RG14PN7686 RD139 SD2 ED20 SN9999
Registration District: St Albans
Sub District: St Albans
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: St Peter Rural
Address: Hill End S Albans
County: Hertfordshire

As requested by BatMansDaughter


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about William Enfield
Name: William Enfield
Year: 1901
County or Borough: Harrow
Ward or Division/Constituency: Harrow
Street Address: 1 BeUe-vue-terrace.....Actually its

Ground Floor
16 Brent View Road.

Voters are arranged alphabetically, so would need additional research. Don't forget that it was mainly Males who had the vote.