Genealogy Chat

Hoping for some further help
Although not Winifred Dawson (nee Marland) but John connolly who she had children with but never married. Also known as Johnny and Jack. All I know is he died about 30 years ago,I have been told in a house fire which I presume was Rochdale. His Grandchildren said they used to see him and they were living in Deamley? Littleborough.
Winifred left him in 1954 and remarried in 1955.

Births Sep 1946
Connolly Jacqueline Marland Rochdale 10f 586
Dawson Jacqueline Marland Rochdale 10f 586

Births Mar 1949
Connolly Michael Marland Rochdale 10f 471
Dawson Michael Marland Rochdale 10f 471

Births Jun 1950
Connolly John Marland Rochdale 10f 489
Dawson John Marland Rochdale 10f 489

Births Dec 1952
CONNOLLY Margaret MARLAND Rochdale 10f 449
DAWSON Margaret MARLAND Rochdale 10f 449

These are a few of the births.
My subscription is limited and not possible to renew at the moment.
I have searched on Ancestry but I'm not the best at this.

Thanks for any help.

Lesley

You should NOT be posting birth info about living people - especially in view of the circumstances.

You need to get a copy of one of the certs to find out if the man had more than one forename.

The name in itself is far too common to be able to pinpoint the right man

?????


Name: John Joseph Connolly
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1919
Date of Registration: Jun 1971
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 911

I am in contact with these people as they are my Aunties and Uncles and have given me permission to do so.

I understand your concern but thank you.

Unless you have further info you may have problems identifying the right man

Name: John Connolly
Mother's Maiden Surname: Murphy
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1919
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 52

Name: John J Connolly
Mother's Maiden Surname: Woolfenden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 110

So they must know when and where their father died - surely

In any case posting their birth details will not in any way help your search.

I think I might need to find if he remarried. I will ask and see if they know anything.

Thanks for the info given

They were put in care so they don't know.
They are the ones asking me to search for him so I'm just
doing what I can to help them.

One of their birth certs is your best way forward - to find out if he had a second forename

Who suggested the man died when and how he did?

Unless he was married before he started his relationship with Winifred, he couldn't 're-marry'.

My Aunty (his Daughter) said she heard he died in a house fire 30 some years ago but nothing more. The birth to be honest is the same as Wininfreds as a guess.
Wasn't sure if news paper records were available to see on here. That's the reason I gave them details

'Re-marry" slip of the tongue sorry

You'd need to contact the paper for the area, and see whether they have an archivist.

If none of your relatives is prepared to get a copy birth cert, then I rather fear you're stuck

It may, of course, be that he didn't have a second name, but, if he did, your chances of tracing him would be so much better

Thanks for the info everyone.
I will suggest that to them.

Hoping for more help please.
I have more info on John Connolly. b 1901 ( 27th August ) in Littleborough. d 1977 (28th April ). I have been told he has 5 sisters. Margaret, Monica,Frances,Elizabeth and Nellie. Maybe not in that order. Would be grateful for info on parents and sisters dob if anyone can help.
Thanks in advance.

I have found a Public Family Tree on ancestry that has a John Connolly born October quarter 1901 in Littleborough, with the following siblings ...........


Ellen (Nellie) Connolly
1895 – 1984

Lizzie Connolly
1898 – 1982

Mary E.(Lizzie) Connolly
1899 –

Alice T. Connolly
1907 – 1973

Emma Connolly
1908 – 1908

Lucy Connolly
1909 – 1912

Joseph Connolly
1912 – 1914

Willie Connolly
1912 – 1914

Francis Connolly
1913 –

Monica Connolly
1918 –


HOWEVER, this John Connolly seemingly died in 1981, age 80

He also married an Ann Dawson 31 January 1931, Rochdale


I am not convinced that this is the John Connolly you are looking for.


Where did you get your information on date of his death and his sisters????

This is the 1911 Census for the above family, even though I am not convinced it is the correct one


1911 Census

Name: John Connolly
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Littleborough, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Woodbine Place Rochdale
Occupation: School
Registration district: Rochdale
Registration District Number: 470
Sub-registration district: Castleton No 1
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 24615

Henry Connolly 42 b.ca 1869, Blaheley, Lancashire, Cotton Twist Spinner <<<<<< this should be Blakely
Margaret Connolly 35 b.ca 1876, Rochdale
Mary Elizabeth Connolly 13 b.ca 1898, Littleborough
Ellen Connolly 12 b.ca 1899, Littleborough
John Connolly 10
Alice Connolly 4 b.ca 1907, Littleborough


The image says that Henry and Margaret had been married 13 years, 6 children born, 4 still living (so 2 had died)

Hi
I got the info from my aunties. They live in littleborough. Their mother winifred was my grandma and john connolly was their father my grandfather ( they never married ) but was not in their lives so they don't know much. John died in a house fire. I never knew about this family until my mother died and she told us who her real mother were.

but you said earlier that your aunts knew nothing about their father ......

......... so where has this new information come from?

1 of my Aunties got in touch with another auntie (who has been abroad for a few month ) and she gave the info to her to pass on to me. John and Winifred had 10 children and it is taking me some time to get round them all. So far I have only met 1 of my cousins who's mother were killed so she hasn't any info.

you need to get his death certificate. That will tell you the cause of death AND the name of the informant, which may help you search further

It is not unusual to find errors on death certificates as most information is hearsay only, no documents have to be shown except for the cause of death

This looks as though it is the death of the John Connolly as given you by your aunt ............ hearsay though it is.


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: John Connolly
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1901
Date of Registration: Jun 1977
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 0618