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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 3 Jan 2005 20:22

Greeting’s Again Lynn…… Pheww……… not as easy as we thought but I think this is them ? :- EYES DOWN !!!!!!……… 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG9 2285 / Page. 83. 29, Upper Charles Street. Leicester. George. T. Brown Head, Mar.47. Master Sinker Maker. born Leicester. Eliza. Wife. 45. Born Warwick. Mary A. Giffin. Vist. Mar.25. Straw Bonnet Maker. Born. Leicester. Frances J. Brown. Son. Mar. 23. Sinker Maker. Born Leicester. Valentine Brown. Son. Um. 21. Frame Smith. Born Leicester. GEORGE T. BROWN. Son. Um. 18. Frame Smith. Born. Leicester. Eliza Brown. Dau. Um. 15. Frame Fitter. Cotton. Born Leicester. Wilfred Brown. Dau.12. Errand Girl.Born Leicester. Betsy Brown. 10. Scholar. Born Leicester. William Brown. Son 8. Scholar. Born Leicester. Andrew Brown. Son. 4. Scholar. Born Leicester. Alfred Brown. Son. 2. Scholar. Born. Leicester. James Brown. Son. 3 Months. Born Leicester. Eliza Giffin. Vist. 9 Months. Born Surrey. London. ***************************************** Sorry No sign of Sarah Ann Lord living with them But with all that lot I’m not surprised.. lol :0))) I’ve printed that lot off ***************************************** Sarah must be still at Countesthorpe until Wedding (I’ve looked up Lords of Countesthorpe before) Sue Hare ( member on here) would be interested. Give me some time I’ll see if I can find the Wedding details That should tell me if she was in Charles Street or Countesthorpe…. Hopefully latter or tomorrow...... MIKE.


Lynn Report 3 Jan 2005 20:34

yes mike thats the browns well some of them!!!! i found abraham in 1851 at millington street leics living with joseph anthony no sighn of sarah ann then she would have been 13 once again many thanks [what is a sinker maker??] lynn

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 3 Jan 2005 21:25

Greeting's Again Lynn. * SINKER MAKER - made wheels used in spinning industry upon which yarn was wound...... Not found any marriage details yet...:0( Conformation of Burial Welford Road Cemetery :- GEORGE TURNER BROWN. AGE 72. 7th. Jan. 1887. last Address Upper Charles St. St. George Parish. Unconsecrated Ground. Section E. Plot No. 570. Mode. F = Free Common Land. Burial No. 58948. I'll see what I can find re Sarah Ann Lord now .... MIKE.

Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 3 Jan 2005 23:01

Thank you Mike for taking the trouble of looking for Mallens in Leicester. Why didn't I think of checking the phone book? Must have had my blonde hair on! Best wishes Janet

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 3 Jan 2005 23:16

Greeting's again Lynn..... Information found Re Sarah Ann Lord born Countesthorpe :- 1851. Full Transcript Index Census for City of Leicester. MILLSTONE LANE. Abraham Lord. Widow. 64. Needle Maker. Born Canterbury Kent. Antony Joseph Lord. Son. 11. Scholar. Born Leicester. *************************** No. 7. RUTLAND STREET. SARAH LORD. Um. 19. No Occupation given. Born COUNTESTHORPE. ************************** WELFORD ROAD. SARAH ANN LORD. 13. General Servant Born Leicester. ************************** 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG9 / 2289 / Page 76 a. No. 34. Upper Hill Street, Leicester. SARAH LORD. Head. Um. 28. Glove Hand. Born Countesthorpe. Annie Weldon. Lodger. 32. Um. Glove Stitcher. Born Hull Lincolnshire. ********************** I Think George and Sarah Married at St. George's Church. Being the nearest Church to Upper Charles St. Which I don't have the records..... Was that Marriage date of 1858 RIGHT ? :0/ Only I found a Marriage for Sarah Ann Lord Dec. Qrt. 1868. Leicester. 7a. 471. MIKE.


Wendy Report 4 Jan 2005 18:06


Maggie in Leics

Maggie in Leics Report 4 Jan 2005 18:23

Hee Hee Hee!! Think i've sussed who "my" Henry was living with in 1841!! Think Thomas Henry had a sister Sarah - found this on the St Margaret's marriage index - slight discrepancy in the year - but that could be down to transcription.... http://www.geocities(.)com/Heartland/Pond/1598/bpage.html BUTLER SARAH, 1842, JOHN LANE, 2 My next mystery is to suss out if Thomas Edward the Chemist (born c. 1819, All Saints) fits into the picture - family lore says he doesn't, but I have a hunch he does..... could he be a nephew to Henry???????????????? Can't believe that in just a few short days, John Butler has gone from being just a name on a marriage cert, to having a whole family of his own!! Thanks to Mike for his input.

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 4 Jan 2005 19:37

Greeting's Maggie....... Close....... And here is the full transcript of SARAH'S Marriage to JOHN :- Entry No.472, SEP 22, 1842, by Licence JOHN LANE, full age, bach. SHOE MAKER, of BELGRAVE GATE, s. of FRANCIS LANE, FARMER SARAH BUTLER, full age, sp. of BELGRAVE GATE, d. of HENRY BUTLER, SHOE MAKER Wits: FRANCIS LANE, CRISTALALLISE? LANE. Who's a clever Gal then ? :0)))) Good here an't it M' Duck ?........ MIKE.


Lynn Report 4 Jan 2005 22:19

many thanks mike the marriage between francis and sarah is correct as you said st georges sept 22 1859 i just can not find sarahs mother or any other connection with a family for abraham he was 64 when sarah was 13 and her brother joseph was 11 was he their grandfather ??? i also understand there was another george turner brown in welford road a child not sure of an age . as you said george was 72 when he died can not find his birth i thought it was birstal?? [not from leicester] but no luck yet lynn

Maggie in Leics

Maggie in Leics Report 5 Jan 2005 07:47

Mike, How can I ever thank you!! Think I'll have to bow and scrape when I come to Blaby tomorrow!! Still can't get over the fact that my John has gained SO many rellies in the last few days it's amazing!! The bad news for him is that I am on the trail of his mother in law!! See you tomorrow. Maggie

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 5 Jan 2005 22:33

Greeting's Again Maggie.... It's that nice man again :0) Whilst trawling through the 1841. scanned Census for someone else came across these worthy of note :- HO107 /10 / Page 39. Pike Street , Off Wharf Street. St. Maragaret's. Looks like some type of guest house ? Ann Hutchenson. 53. Elizabeth. Ditto. 18. James. 12. Ditto. All below Living with above. Robert Smith. 25. F.W.K. Mary Wilkinson. 18. Ditto. Ann. Ditto. 13. Ditto. Mary. Perkins. 12. Ditto. SARAH. Ditto. 10. HENRY BUTLER. 12. ditto. All but Ann & Elizabeth Born within the County. *************************** HO107 /10 /Page 45. Milton St. off Wharf Street. St. Margaret's. JOHN BUTLER. 25. Butcher. Jane. Wife. 30. William. Son. 5. Mary. Dau. 3. William 30. Lab......Brother to John ? All Born within the County. ******************* Printed off for you.. Best to bring a trailer tomorrow and be early ..... MIKE.

Maggie in Leics

Maggie in Leics Report 6 Jan 2005 02:55

Mike, Thanks for those - wonder if/where they fit in!! All those Johns and Henrys make it look like they fit somewhere!! Hoping to meet Duncan and Lesley about 7.00pm at Blaby - look forward to putting face to name.... Maggie P.S. You haven't said what job you'd like at Charnwood.......!!

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 6 Jan 2005 12:12

Greeting's Again Maggie.... Ummm...... Seeing I'm getting good at finding people ... Then maybe I'd better be in the ..... " Lost Property Tent. "... :0))) MIKE.

Maggie in Leics

Maggie in Leics Report 7 Jan 2005 00:37

Mike, Good to meet you tonight - Thanks so much for all your help. Had a good meeting tonight - will mail you in the morning - enough of burning the "Charnwood Candle" - the candle you can burn at both ends AND in the middle!!!!! Maggie P.S. Would you believe that the most common measurement was 42 inches - tho as to whether that was A's, B's, C's, D's - or even double D's I'm not sure!!!!!!!!!! Amazing the "fun" you can have at a Scout "Hut" on a Thursday night!! Look forward to next time - Feb 3rd if you're there!! Think that will be "dress up" and "model" night - don't miss out - be a scout (or in my case - a Girl Guide!!). P.P.S. If it's really a job in lost property that you're after, then the same chap that can answer the question about the shop can sign you up for the "Smiley Centre" - Charnwood's own Information Centre staffed partly by some very nice ladies - think you would have a good time there!!

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 7 Jan 2005 15:27

Maggie.... Yes..... nice when you can put a name to a face......... " A,B,C's"..You say ? ....Ummmm I was thinking more a long the lines of 7 & 6/ has my flat hat only covered half ? :0))) MIKE.

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 8 Jan 2005 19:24

Hi Mike, Have just looked at St Margs reg and found a Charles Hurst marrying a Jemima Stretton, wondered if this ties in with the census you sent me or if you have any info on them. The surname Stretton has popped up again and could the spelling of Jamima on the 1861 census be wrong and should it read daughter in law rather than daughter (or was this a common mistake) Elaine PS married1858

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 8 Jan 2005 20:26

Greeting's again Elaine...... One Wedding coming up........... St. Margaret's Church.. Entry No.80, DEC 25, 1858, after Banns CHARLES HURST, 19, bach. PAINTER, of GEORGE St, s. of WILLIAM HURST, PAINTER JEMIMA STRETTON, 23, sp. of GEORGE St, father's name & occupation not given Wits: WILLIAM HENRY STRETTON, LOUISA STRETTON. The Occupation fits that census return of 1861.... and wonder if that Louisa (witness) is the Lucy also on that return ?? ummmm.... Your other query re Daughter or Daughter - in - Law ? The enumerator could have misunderstood miss read or miss heard what was said. Or some one has mis transcribed it wrong So Yes it is a common mistake so don't disregard it yet.... Just had another look at that return has it spreads over two pages and I see that the last four entries are all females including Jemime. and in the column of "Relation to Head " all boxes have ...... " " following on from the first Daughter beneath the entry for Charles.. And so not wishing to let it be know they were living together had it read Daughter ..... MIKE.

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 8 Jan 2005 20:41

Thanks mike, Looking good so far, just wondering who posted the original Stretton link now The Stretton surname also appears on a wedding cert for Albert Victor Ward and Rose Warren Elaine

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 8 Jan 2005 20:49

Greeting's Again Elaine.. I've add more since you 1st read my reply... The other Strettons belong to " Bev".. and I think they come from Croxton Kerrial in the north of the County... But remembered I did spot some Strettons in Aylestone on one of the Census .... MIKE.

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 8 Jan 2005 21:06

Adding more myself, got confused, have Eliza Stretton mentioned Ward/Warren wedding cert and a Charles Hurst marrying Jemima Stretton again connected with the Ward side of my family. Will look through old threads now looking at the original messages Thanks Elaine