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Barrie Report 3 Aug 2008 09:11

You are overweight for the most simple of reasons -- because you're eating the wrong foods, the wrong types of calories per meal, and you're also eating meals in the wrong patterns each day.

Think closely about what we're about to tell you, since it's going to change the way you think about dieting...

FOOD is more powerful than any prescription weight loss pills, because the FOOD that you eat can either make you THIN or FAT. You don't get fat because of a lack of exercising, that's a myth. You get fat because you don't eat the right foods at the right intervals each day.

Also, the pattern that you choose to eat your meals each day is more powerful than any prescription weight loss pills. This is true because your body is like an "engine" and it only needs certain foods at certain intervals each day, and if you don't eat the right foods at the right times then it won't burn those calories -- and you'll wind up storing those calories as fat tissue. (Hint: You need to eat more than 3 times per day to lose weight, but we'll show you the details later).

You have gotten overweight by eating the wrong foods, that much is a fact. And guess what? You can get SLIM by eating the RIGHT FOODS at the RIGHT INTERVALS each day.

It's not really any more complicated than that, and the way to start losing weight has nothing to do with starving yourself or jogging.



JustJean Report 3 Aug 2008 09:15

Barrie you sound just like that guy on t.v. who does hypnosis, paul somebody,lol


Barrie Report 3 Aug 2008 09:16

pmsl Jean



MrDaff Report 3 Aug 2008 11:04

Oh dear, Barrie... I'd love it to be as simple as you make it sound... may I employ you as my own personal food guru and dietician?

What you say is true in many instances... but there are also medical/genetic conditions which mean that most food... yes, even lettuce... is processed in a way that is stored as fat.

I am very very tired of people (including GP's, I might add) who have such a simplistic approach

I have put on more than 7 stone in 7 years... but my diet is extremely good, and I was very very active as part of my job. I had to leave work three years ago, but do not qualify for benefits as GP's did not consider me to be ill.

I was told that it was because I was menopausal, fat (yes, as blunt as that) greedy and lazy. Add on that they also tried to make me take strong anti-depressants (they said I was depressed, and that I had Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, which I certainly didn't have) and increased medication that I had been taking since a stroke at the age of 33 (when I was very slim, ate very healthily, and was very active)

Well..... would you believe that because I refused to take it sitting down anymore as I feel so ill most of the time, I went privately for two simple tests, that no GP would authorise.

It is now believed that I may have a small (benign) tumour on my pituitary gland.

Maybe because of my stroke, it may have been the cause of the stroke, but possibly from an incident when I was 10 and got hit in the face and nose by a base ball.

If what is suspected is true, I have a very long haul ahead of me... but I should manage to return to almost full health (and weight, lol) eventually.

In the meantime, I still have to listen to so many people who state the same sort of *facts* as you do, and with all the inferences. Mad, lazy, greedy and menopausal!! Stereotyped!




maggiewinchester Report 3 Aug 2008 11:12

It's a well known fact that steroids and other drugs can cause weight gain - as does the menopause.
I think what Barrie is talking about is the average 'healthy' person who is overweight - and the number of overweight children..
What Barrie says makes a lot of sense. My friend put on an awful lot of weight - about 5 stone - after the birth of her two children. She tried diets, but nothing worked. Then she went on an eating 'regime', which meant changing her eating pattern.
She ate at 8am, 12 noon and 4pm on the dot for 2 years - and lost the 5 stone. 20 years later, she still sticks to this regime - but occasionally eats later in the evening - since losing the weight she allows herself to be taken out for meals in the evening!!

As for the fat gene, I'm a bit sceptical. If it has always been around, where were the overweight/obese people in times gone past?
My g x 6 grandfather was over 32 stone - this was definitely an exception as his death was reported in the newspaper as 'Death of the Heaviest Man in England', and his wife and daughters were also 'big' for the time according to the newspaper report 18, 16 and 14 stone.
Of the living descendants that I know of, only one family can be described as overweight - and that's only 3 members out of a family of 7 - and they eat for England!! The other 4 members of the family are in physically demanding jobs, so I presume they don't have the time to snack in between meals and their jobs mean they burn off excess calories!!



AnnCardiff Report 3 Aug 2008 11:18

well I am overweight - not a lot - simply because I am too short for my weight!! If I were an inch taller I'd be slim

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 3 Aug 2008 11:26

are you saying that your friend doesn't eat anything after 4 pm until 8 am the next day ?


MrDaff Report 3 Aug 2008 11:37

Hiya Maggie.... strange you should ask where all the fat people were..... they died!!

My gran collapsed and died when I was four months old. She was 55 years old.

This was in 1954.... and photos I have show that she was very overweight, and clearly had a goitre from the time she was about 35, and all during the war.

My mother remembers her as eating very small amounts, and there wasn't the fat or the sugar around... the family sugar rations were saved for birthdays and Christmas.
They kept chickens and grew vegetables, there was no running water in the house etc etc etc!

Her death certificate shows that the heart disease which killed her was almost certainly caused by problems with her endocrinal system.

When this is faulty... then many many varying problems occur. And you become more susceptible to the *triggers*

I personally think that the modern, chemical filled diet has a lot to answer foras far as the triggers are concerned.

And me? Well, I grew up on all fresh veg, homecooked stuff... still do, but allow the odd treat.

But there have been serious poisons, many banned now, but used in the food chain for many many years, pesticides etc, that MUST have had an effect on our immune systems, and maybe those of our unborn children, either because of what the mother consumes whilst pregnant, or because of what the father ate before conception!

So... maybe it IS the food we eat... but not necessarily the type of food or the times or way that it is eaten, but more the way that our food and soil is polluted in the growing and *fattening* up of it.

Incidentally, my mother, one of my brothers and 2 of my sisters eat for Britain.... cake, sweet stuff etc... and they are like matchsticks... my mother is 75, 5ft 1in and under 7 stone... always has been!


Daff xxx

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 3 Aug 2008 11:46

Behave ...


Deanna Report 3 Aug 2008 11:47

I'm FAT.... worse than that , I'm OBESE....

been on steroids for years, and started on 40 mg's a day.
I do not spend my time eating... I never eat after 6 at night (I would never sleep) and I eat three meals a day.
Fruit is a big thing in our house... we eat loads of veg, we eat mainly brown seed bread....... oh I know what is wrong.....
We have a coffee and a cake or biscuit at about 3.00!
No apologies to anyone...
The steroids saved my life, should I complain about the side affects?
I don't think so.
Deanna X


maggiewinchester Report 3 Aug 2008 12:12

Hi Stella,
My friend could eat as much celery and cucumber as she liked!!!


maggiewinchester Report 3 Aug 2008 12:16

Daff, totally agree about the pesticides etc. The 60's did us all a disservice.
Not only were farmers gaily spraying our food with poison, the introduction of the birth pill now means there are vast amounts of female hormones in our water!!
Could this be the cause of infertility in some women and 'man boobs' in men?

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 3 Aug 2008 12:33

thanks maggie ....i love cucumber ....mmmm

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 3 Aug 2008 12:35

There are so many theories when it comes to weight loss.

Whilst eating at certain times will make someone lose 5 stone, it may do nothing for another, eating the same diet, at the same time.

The only diet I will ever follow, is the diet from my dietitian, given to me over 9 years ago. I lost three stone on that, it was a choose from each category diet, but really they were much oily fish, so much rice, so much fact it was really a guide to eating a balanced diet with the correct portion sizes of meat fish, potato etc.

Within weeks, there was no weighing out, but more of a judgement on sizes which you really should continue for ever.

I ended up eating more, but a balanced more, with more free food such as salads & veggies to bulk out the meals.

Slipping back into old ways, & using food as an emotional crutch was my downfall, but I am going to lose weight for my holiday next year s an incentive, and will again go on this healthy eating plan, also as before having the odd treat here and there and not denying myself anything I may fancy to eat.


MrDaff Report 3 Aug 2008 13:36

Hi Elaine......

For many people, it isn't as simple as that, it really really isn't.

I so wish it was.

It is so soul destroying when you hear people telling you how they have lost their weight, how easy it has become for them to maintain that weight. No offence meant.... I am really really pleased when anyone has found anything that makes them feel and look healthy, happy, and energetic!

Earlier this year I lost 2 whole pounds in 2 weeks... but stuck to a diet consisting of an average of 600 calories per day.

I was very strict, and was careful to include all the nutrients that I could, so that I was getting what my body needs just to tick over.

I supplemented with certain vitamins, minerals etc, and included these in the calorific tally!

As you will appreciate... this was not a healthy diet at all... it was impossible to consume the minimum daily nutritional requirement, no matter what your size!! After 2 weeks, my dietician and I agreed that this was impossible to maintain!!

Incidentally... part of my job was to work out diets for people with syndromes/disabilites which affect their ability to utilize food efficiently, syndromes such as Praader Willi, diabetes, cystic fibrosis, cerebal palsy.

I know my stuff, and was good at it!

So I continue to eat my healthy, normal diet, using organic produce whenever I can, almost always home made.

I also have the occasional treat.... weekend glasses of wine, the occasional slice of Cheddar cheese on toast.... and when I go out I always, absolutely always have chips...

I used to feel as though I was a real glutton having these treats.....but I am not, my diet is better even than the dieticia's.

And to cheat would only be cheating myself... I feel far too ill to do that. I just want to be well again.

Sorry about the essay, lol!!


Daff xxx


Barrie Report 3 Aug 2008 13:36

I will look for a eating plan on that site i got the info from



MrDaff Report 3 Aug 2008 13:41

Thank you Barrie, but I for one, was tongue in cheek... I really don't require your assistance!

As you can see from my last post..... I could probably write a better one myself.

My point is that if someone has a metabolic problem.... then diet is not going to be effective!!


Barrie Report 3 Aug 2008 13:43

Thank you Daff it looks like i will have to stay poor lol


ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 3 Aug 2008 15:19

I'd just like to mention, that those who have met me can vouch I'm more than a bit puddy :o))

The above was a way of life diet which did work for me at the time, and certainly does no harm as its healthy eating anyhow.

I have suffered because of my weight, its not helped the depression I often get. I have a poor self image, and often a low self esteem because I hate the way that I look. I cant find nice clothes that hang right on my body, everything looks wrong. I live in t shirts & trousers, leggings when Im slumming it indoors..


Eating 600 calories a day is dangerous and wonder you stopped at only 2bs loss. Your body would go into starvation mode, slowing your metabolism so you dont lose the weight.

Eating more healthy balanced foods may not make you lose more weight, if you have other medical reasons why you dont, but it will be healthy for your body, and your well being.

If you ever feel you want to talk, feel free to pm me x

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 3 Aug 2008 15:58

Well, I don't know - I think there is something in this genetic thing. I'm one of those naturally "slim" people. Woe betide anyone else who tells me I'm too thin! My mother was the same, my sisters were, my son is - in fact all my nephews are as well so there must be something in it.

My father was a chef - pastry a speciality. And when I was a child (in the 60s) my mother's part of the cooking consisted of the suet side - steak & kidney pud, dumplings, roly poly. We all ate like horses. I still do.

I'm not good at breakfast - a juice or a smoothy I can manage but not much else as it makes me feel queasy - but I can pack away my lunch and an evening meal and I do like a drop of wine or beer. If I skip one meal a day the weight will fall off. I have been known to lose a pound a day for a week or more (when I had sinusitis once, and another couple of occasions when I had a chest infection). It then takes months and months to put that weight back on. It's, frankly, a nuisance. I feel the cold the whole time, I cannot get trousers that fit properly and I hate this constant "You're so lucky to be so slim" stuff. Drives me mad. I'd rather have a bigger bum and proper boobs - believe me.

Oh, and my cholesterol is a bit high. Just because I am able to eat crap food because I don't put on weight doesn't mean that I can - I have to watch that as well!!