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The Queens Mother In Law - last night

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maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 23 Aug 2012 00:03

Suzanne,
I don't want to make you feel worse, but it was so good, it will probably be on again :-D

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 23 Aug 2012 00:23

love your pic of your beautiful daughter on her wedding day.my daughter was married the wk before.x

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 23 Aug 2012 00:34

Sharron

Hate to correct you, because you are partly right. Prince Philip's mother was Princess Alice of Battenburg, and was known also as Princess Andrew of Greece. I just remember her as a nun who was in the shadows at early royal events in the 1950's. Her death can hardly have been mentioned because I was taking quite a keen interest in royalty by then. I never rememeber any of the women in my family mentioning her - yet Princess Margaret, Queen, Queen Mother etc were constaant topics of conversation. Even Princess Marina and theg Lascelles got a good airing.

The sister of George VI was Mary, the Princess Royal, Countess of Harewood (1897-1964). Looked very much like Queen Mary.

The Princess Alice I think you are referring to was Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester (1901-2004). She was about the same age as Queen Mum, but was very much frailer and was not seen much in public latterly. She was the daughter of 7th Duke of Buccleuch and Queensbury. She was about 40 when she married and 43 or 44 when present Duke was born. I think it was her elder son who was killed in an air crash at Halfpenny Green near Wolverhampton in his 20's.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 23 Aug 2012 00:41

Thank you, Suzanne.
I'm really chuffed as I now have 2 sons in law - both of whom are in (friendly) competition to 'keep in' with the mother in law :-D

,,,and I can do a darned good impersonation of Les Dawson!!!....

*$parkling $andie*

*$parkling $andie* Report 23 Aug 2012 10:01

Suzanne~~

If you want to watch it at your leisure ( I just have ) google Channel 4 , go into the A -Z and it is under Q. Same sort of thing as BBC iPlayer.

Intriguing viewing.

Mersey

Mersey Report 23 Aug 2012 11:01

~~~~ $andie

Thanks hun will do just that......looking forward to it even more after reading reviews on here..... :-)

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 23 Aug 2012 18:37

No one has mentioned the fact which was revealed that she had sheltered a Jewish family in the top floor of her home in Greece for a twelve-month and when questioned by a Nazi officer - told the truth - that she was deaf.

RStar

RStar Report 23 Aug 2012 19:28

Yes, I watched it first time around. An eye opener! I think there are also a number of illegitimate children, now adults, linked to the Royal family.

Jean (Monmouth)

Jean (Monmouth) Report 23 Aug 2012 19:43

I remem ber seeing this lady in the papers. She was a strong personality and Prince Philip takes after her. I admire the work she did, and I also admire Prince Philip for the support he has given the Queen over the years. It was goosd seeing the Queen still can drive herself. I hope she is a good passenger, drivers often arent.

brummie46

brummie46 Report 24 Aug 2012 08:41

Very interesting indeed, but although i can usually follow the royal family tree line, i wonder if anyone can solve my query.
Queen Victoria had a grand daughter also named Victoria and she in turn was themother of Princess Alice is this correct.
Relating to the Mountbatten family, to which Lord Mountbattens daughters kept relating to Princess Alice as their Aunt, can you clarify as to where they lay within the royal circle.
thanks

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 09:31

Hi Brummie

Brummie. Just checked and you are right about Queen Vic's granddaughter (no, not Peggy Mitchell, another one related to Lord Mountbatten).

Lord Mountbatten (1900-1979) was born His Serene Highness Prince Louis of Battenberg. He was a brother of Princess Alice of Battenberg (later Princess Andrew of Greece). So the two daughters of Lord Mountbatten are nieces of Princess Alice (or Princess Andrew). And first cousins of Prince Philip.

Parents of Princess Alice and Lord Mountbatten (Prince Louis) were Prince Louis of Battenberg senior and Princess Victoria of Hesse.

Princess Victoria of Hesse was daughter of Princes Alice of the United Kingdom, one of the 9 children of our queer old dean Queen Victoria. QED :-S :-)

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 21:04

Look at the post 22 Aug at 22.36. Am I being too paranoid ti think that was an attempt to make me look a bit silly? Was expecting a bit of a grovel, but nothing yet.

Sharron

Sharron Report 24 Aug 2012 21:20

The person I was thinking of was Princess Alice of Athlone who I was confusing with Princess Mary,the previous Princess Royal.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 21:35

Well, I think you made an effort to make me look as if I had no idea what I was talking about, Sharron. That Princess Alice (of Athlone) that you confused Princess Alice of Battenberg with was a grandchild of Queen Victoria, so she could hardly have been the daughter of George V ( a great grandchild of Queen Victoria) as you suggested.

I think you either meant the Countess of Harewood, and thought her name was Alice, not Mary. Or you were thinking of Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester who died in 2004 aged over 100. But will accept you were just confused.

Whatever you were thinking of, you were wrong. And a little grovel might be nice.

Sharron

Sharron Report 24 Aug 2012 21:49

Go on then grovel.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 22:02

Well done, Sharron :-D I've had to do that myself a couple of times recently when I have made a mistake.

Sharron

Sharron Report 24 Aug 2012 22:05

Go away.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 22:19

This was your only contribution til tonight, Sharron : "She was known as Princess Andrew. The Princess Alice who died was more recent and was the last remaining great-grandchild of Queen Victoria, the sister of Edward George Vl."

Tonight, you have said you were thinking of Princess Alice of Athlone!!

Go away"? Your response is so disgraceful and childish. You were wrong. It is clear you were wrong. You even admit you were wrong. But you will not back down and say sorry properly.

Several of us have tried to have a serious discussion about Princess Alice (aka Princess Andrew). For some reason you wanted to butt in, apparently just to try to make my contribution look silly. That is how I took it anyway.

Hoisted by your own petarde, methinks. Believe I got a coded apology from you (sort of). So will go away. Have a nice weekend.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 24 Aug 2012 22:46

I would imagine you are joking John - I can't believe anyone would actually say the things you just have :-0

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 24 Aug 2012 23:03

Absolutely serious. I tried to ignore what I feel sure was an attempt by Sharron to tell me (and perhaps others including the TV company) it was wrong to call her Princess Alice.

But no attempt to come back on the thread and say she was wrong and neither Princess Alice of Athlone (who incidentally died after Princess Alice of Battenberg) or Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester) were the sister of George VI.

I did not intend to let Sharron get away with it. Is there a reason why I should? What was her purpose in joining the discussion? What has she contributed apart from mis-information?